# Battlestar Galactica Finale Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 20, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206 "2009-03-20T19:33:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/81 "2009-03-21T03:26:22Z")

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> [@nivlac](#):
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> But can someone explain to me how Laura got on the Cylon ship where all the shooting was taking place? It looked like she was working in Galactica’s sickbay, then she started wandering off and ended up finding Hera on the Cylon baseship. Huh?

They were on Galactica. Cavil and his forces boarded Galactica to get Hera, and that’s when Laura went to find Hera. Notice that shortly thereafter, Caprica and Baltar brought Hero to the bridge.

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**Author:** ![nivlac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@nivlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nivlac)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/82 "2009-03-21T03:27:52Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> She was on Galactica the whole time; the Cylons boarded her.

OK, gotcha. Must have missed that. I’ll look for it when I watch it again.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/83 "2009-03-21T03:29:46Z")

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Now watching _Batman_ on American Life TV.  
Beats the hell out of Battlestar Baltar. 🙂

Saints be praised!

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**Author:** ![Archergal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Archergal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Archergal)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/84 "2009-03-21T03:33:28Z")

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But for Og’s sake, did they have to go so much to the Twilight Zone-y “Hi, my name is Adam.” “Hi, I’m Eve” direction???

Jeezopete.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/85 "2009-03-21T03:33:31Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Now watching _Batman_ on American Life TV.  
> Beats the hell out of Battlestar Baltar. 🙂
> 
> Saints be praised!

That’s what you got out of it? Battlestar Baltar? Yeah, definitely stick to Batman.

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**Author:** ![Strinka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strinka/32/512_2.png) [@Strinka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strinka)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/86 "2009-03-21T03:34:55Z")

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It was satisfying. I didn’t like the god/angels stuff, but besides that it was really good.

Also, I still don’t get the whole plan to rescue Hera. It was supposed to be a suicide mission, they weren’t expecting to come back. So what good is rescuing Hera if they’re just going to get killed?

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/87 "2009-03-21T03:37:44Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Nah, the Kara thread was not left unresolved. She was the same thing as the angels which Gaius and Caprica had been seeing. She just didn’t realize it until she was gone.
> 
> LOVED the finale. 🙂

So she was an “angel” that _everyone_ was able to see, hear, and interact with, wheras Head-Six and Head-Baltar have been firmly established as only visible to Real-Six and Real-Baltar?

we’re supposed to just accept on “faith” that Kara’s an angel, sorry, not buying it, I need to see hard, scientific _TRUTH_, you know, the _facts_, the facts have been established that Head-Characters (Head-Six, Head-Baltar, Head-Elosha) can only be seen by the person hallucinating them

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/88 "2009-03-21T03:40:32Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> So she was an “angel” that _everyone_ was able to see, hear, and interact with, wheras Head-Six and Head-Baltar have been firmly established as only visible to Real-Six and Real-Baltar?
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> we’re supposed to just accept on “faith” that Kara’s an angel, sorry, not buying it, I need to see hard, scientific _TRUTH_, you know, the _facts_, the facts have been established that Head-Characters (Head-Six, Head-Baltar, Head-Elosha) can only be seen by the person hallucinating them

You’re making up facts on your own and demanding that the writers should have followed them? Yeah, good luck with _that_.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/89 "2009-03-21T03:42:25Z")

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Galactica is the Golgafrincham B-Ark!

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**Author:** ![Strinka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strinka/32/512_2.png) [@Strinka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strinka)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/90 "2009-03-21T03:42:44Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> So she was an “angel” that _everyone_ was able to see, hear, and interact with, wheras Head-Six and Head-Baltar have been firmly established as only visible to Real-Six and Real-Baltar?
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> we’re supposed to just accept on “faith” that Kara’s an angel, sorry, not buying it, I need to see hard, scientific _TRUTH_, you know, the _facts_, the facts have been established that Head-Characters (Head-Six, Head-Baltar, Head-Elosha) can only be seen by the person hallucinating them

Baltar and Caprica Six both saw the same HeadBaltar and HeadSix when they kissed before the battle. So, it would seem that they can be visible to whoever they want to be visible to.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/91 "2009-03-21T03:44:50Z")

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All we can do now, watching _The Wrath of Kahn._  
I will try to forget…

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**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/92 "2009-03-21T03:45:05Z")

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Glad to see I wasn’t the only one thinking Golgafrincham.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/93 "2009-03-21T03:45:30Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> You’re making up facts on your own and demanding that the writers should have followed them? Yeah, good luck with _that_.

At least my “facts” follow established canon that “Head-entities can only be seen by the person hallucinating them”

my opinion of the Kara Thrace is an “angel” plot point is that it’s lazy writing that breaks established canon

> [@Strinka](#):
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> Baltar and Caprica Six both saw the same HeadBaltar and HeadSix when they kissed before the battle. So, it would seem that they can be visible to whoever they want to be visible to.

true, but it strikes me as a lazy way of rationalizing the whole “Kara is an angel” thing, and considering it only happened in the final episode…

I’m dropping this nitpick, I’ll write this whole episode off as existing purely in the fever-dreams of Wesley Crusher

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/94 "2009-03-21T03:46:19Z")

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So Bill Adama’s “one hour of your life” was a lame HR polygraph test. Not surprising, though I didn’t think senior execs had to go through those.

Did anyone else catch the Star Wars line by Simon - “I think you overestimate their chances.” And Starbuck saying they “stopped for coffee” - I wonder how long they’ve been holding onto that one.

Overall I’m reasonably satisfied, even if the only major character we lost was Roslin.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/95 "2009-03-21T03:48:39Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> At least my “facts” follow established canon that “Head-entities can only be seen by the person hallucinating them”
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> my opinion of the Kara Thrace is an “angel” plot point is that it’s lazy writing that breaks established canon

That is not “established canon”. That is something you made up and are claiming is established canon.

My opinion is that Angel Six said she was an angel from God since the very beginning, in the miniseries. They never told anyone what they could or could not do. But then, you’re just looking for something to have a snit over, so… eh.

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**Author:** ![Strinka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strinka/32/512_2.png) [@Strinka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strinka)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/96 "2009-03-21T03:56:01Z")

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Wait… I have a question.

How did Starbuck get to Earth1 in the first place? She went too low in that gas giant, and then… teleports to Earth1? I can buy the bit about the resurrected Starbuck being an angel. I don’t particularly like it, but I can buy it. But if “god” or whatever can teleport her, why not just teleport her there, then back to the fleet without the whole crashed corpse part?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/97 "2009-03-21T03:58:23Z")

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I thought they pulled it off. They managed a satisfying ending that no one saw coming. Well done.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/98 "2009-03-21T03:59:51Z")

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I could have done without the final scene. Other than that, this was above the bell curve for a series finale.

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**Author:** ![Clark\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@Clark\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_K)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/99 "2009-03-21T04:20:52Z")

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It was a good finale on almost every level.

We got tension-filled action and unexpected twists. We got hell-yeah character moments (Galen going all chokey on Tori) and what-the-hell moments (Cavil eating his gun). We got humor (President Lampkin?) and tragedy (Adama at the grave). We got a measure of resolution for our characters’ journey without resorting to cliches.

I wasn’t thrilled by the ending being so heavy on mysticism. So instead of “a wizard did it,” the explanation for everything in Galactica-verse is “God did it”? Meh. (On the other hand, I do like seeing parallels between Starbuck’s return from the dead and Gandalf’s.)

I could have done without the final scene in New York and the robot footage. A little ham-handed. I also feel a little cheated that the radioactive-earth twist they threw at us, which I thought was brilliant, turned out to be a dodge. But I can live with it.

Bottomline, it didn’t have the emotional punch of the last episode of “The Shield,” but it was still a top-notch ending to what may be the best science fiction show in history.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/100 "2009-03-21T04:27:18Z")

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> [@Clark\_K](#):
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> It was a good finale on almost every level.
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> We got tension-filled action and unexpected twists. We got hell-yeah character moments (Galen going all chokey on Tori) and what-the-hell moments (Cavil eating his gun). We got humor (President Lampkin?) and tragedy (Adama at the grave). We got a measure of resolution for our characters’ journey without resorting to cliches.
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> I wasn’t thrilled by the ending being so heavy on mysticism. So instead of “a wizard did it,” the explanation for everything in Galactica-verse is “God did it”? Meh. (On the other hand, I do like seeing parallels between Starbuck’s return from the dead and Gandalf’s.)
> 
> I could have done without the final scene in New York and the robot footage. A little ham-handed. I also feel a little cheated that the radioactive-earth twist they threw at us, which I thought was brilliant, turned out to be a dodge. But I can live with it.
> 
> Bottomline, it didn’t have the emotional punch of the last episode of “The Shield,” but it was still a top-notch ending to what may be the best science fiction show in history.

You summed up my thoughts pretty darn well… thank you.

To the crew of Galactica - twas a fun ride!

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