# Battlestar Galactica Finale Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 20, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206 "2009-03-20T19:33:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/161 "2009-03-21T22:07:46Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Oh, one more thing: I had interpreted the last jump as being backward in time (God/whoever helping out again), not just a spatial relocation - to the same Earth as the nuked version, just our past. Was there any fact or statement confirming that it was really a different planet, with no time travel? Nothing in show, besides the talk between Adama & Roslin where he told her they’re going to call this Earth. But Ron Moore has confirmed in the interview I linked before that the nuked planet they found first is definitely not the same place as where they ended up, which IS supposed to be the planet all of us are currently living on. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/162 "2009-03-21T22:19:11Z")
> [@wonderlust](#): > > I loved the whole series, and I literally mourn the loss of this fantastic show. Yeah, I’m finding myself extra depressed today. Over a show. ☹ It really is over. No way to continue this story, unless it’s a children’s “Adventures of Hera and Cave-Boy.” I know everyone grows old and dies, but it’s their whole society dying too, that’s so depressing. **ElvisL1ves** , I’d think the first thing the fleet does when it jumps is check the stars and verify their position. If Galacta’s crew wasn’t in shape to do it, any of the other ships could. Someone would have said something if the stars looked the same. “Holy frak! We’ve time-traveled!” ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/163 "2009-03-21T22:24:38Z")
Loved it. Best ending possible. Nothing was going to be perfect, but I thought this had just the right character notes for everyone we’ve come to know over the seasons. (Except Lamkin. How the frak did they make him president?) I’m not religious at all and I don’t like mystical explanations of things, or the idea - even in fiction - that everything is part of a mystical, benevolent plan, but I thought they got the balance pretty much right for the series. They’ve ALWAYS had hints that something mystical was going on. Showing Kara disappear and the showing the head-angels with their own independent existence made it a little too definite and clear-cut for me (I prefer mystery in my mysticism!), but the line “He doesn’t like that name” gave it just enough wiggle-room for me. (When Angel-Six said of Hera, “She survived,” the use of past tense made me think for a while that they were actually people from the future who had projected themselves back in time. I was sure that was what the 150,000-years-later scene was going to be about. And I LOVED the ending with the dancing robots. ---
**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/164 "2009-03-21T22:29:19Z")
Bill upchucks and then looks up to see Orion in the sky. What the frak? Any explanations? ---
**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/165 "2009-03-21T22:44:49Z")
> [@wonderlust](#): > > Bill upchucks and then looks up to see Orion in the sky. What the frak? Any explanations? God did it. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/166 "2009-03-21T22:50:34Z")
> [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > (When Angel-Six said of Hera, “She survived,” the use of past tense made me think for a while that they were actually people from the future who had projected themselves back in time. I thought that too at first. They seemed to have future knowledge, or they regularly travel around time. Baltar: "Hera, will she be alright? Angel Six: “She survived.” But we know she didn’t make it past young womanhood, so I’m thinking they just meant “she made it to Earth, and will live long enough to breed.” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/167 "2009-03-21T23:12:53Z")
Angel Baltar and Angel Six did not know whether this latest civilization (us) will make all of this happen again, though. “God” could well have sent them into the past to play their role in guiding the necessary Cylon blood here, but if He knows the future, He’s not sharing it with them. Hera “survived” in the sense that all of humanity is descended from her - that’s all that had to mean. > [@Alan Smithee](#): > > Lamkin. How the frak did they make him president? Best candidate available. It was either him, Cottle (who’d be busy in sickbay), or a telephone sanitizer. **muldoonthief** , thanks for the podcast info. Explains the temple, too. **wonderlust** , _Caprica_ will be a full series about the twelve colonies’ creation of the Cylons, 50 years or so before the first war. _The Plan_ is the 2-hour movie, on DVD in April and broadcast this fall, about Caprica When The Walls Fell from the Cylons’ POV. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/168 "2009-03-21T23:13:02Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > “she made it to Earth, and will live long enough to breed.” With [Og,](http://www.trussel.com/prehist/crump/ogs.htm) no doubt. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/169 "2009-03-21T23:29:20Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > **ElvisL1ves** , I’d think the first thing the fleet does when it jumps is check the stars and verify their position. If Galacta’s crew wasn’t in shape to do it, any of the other ships could. Someone would have said something if the stars looked the same. “Holy frak! We’ve time-traveled!” Except they wouldn’t. They would have moved over 150,000 years. And since there has been no mention of time travel ever in the show, I see no reason to assume they time traveled. I would like to see a webcast or something of The Admiral Yoshi / President Lampkin administration. How heavy can those Admiral pins weigh in 12 hours? And if I were writing this, Kara and Loebin would appear all glowy at the end with Head Six and Head Baltar Anakin Skywalker style. ..and I would have showed Adama dying and being greated in the CIC of the Galactica by every character that has died in the show with Roslyn in the center Titanic style. And then I would apply for a job as a writer but only for the season finale of shows where the producer wanted to give a hearty F-you to the fans. ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/170 "2009-03-21T23:45:07Z")
I’m going to give it a B+ There were parts of it that were really hokey and cheesy (and preachey) but I think it was ultimately quite satisfying. I liked it-I can see why some people wouldn’t. More than the Kara thing, I’m disappointed we never figured out Caprica Six’s real name…was she Baltar’s Dolores??? Some people on TWOP were saying he calls her “Dani” at some point but I didn’t catch that. James Callis did a good job with that final, hilarious bit about farming. There was quite a bit of humour thrown in throughout. Do the Tanzanian highlands really have temperate climate trees? I’m also happy they paid off whatever royalties were owed and we got to hear the awesome version of an awesome song. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/171 "2009-03-21T23:52:19Z")
That reminds me of my question. Galen says he’s going to an island off one of the northern continents. It’s cold, in the highlands, and with no people. Is Galen the father of all Scots? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/172 "2009-03-21T23:53:57Z")
The star patterns – particularly the obvious Orion shown more than once – are a big weakness. The constellations wouldn’t look the same 150,000 years ago as they do now. > [@anu-la1979](#): > > I’m going to give it a B+ That’s probably not too far off from my grade. No higher than B-plus, and no lower than C-plus. > [@](#): > > More than the Kara thing, I’m disappointed we never figured out Caprica Six’s real name…was she Baltar’s Dolores??? Some people on TWOP were saying he calls her “Dani” at some point but I didn’t catch that. I think Moore has made it clear that we’re not going to get her name. I think one of the novels calls her “Natasi.” > [@](#): > > I’m also happy they paid off whatever royalties were owed and we got to hear the awesome version of an awesome song. I’ve been humming that song since I was 9 years old. ---
**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/173 "2009-03-21T23:56:36Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Baltar’s father was a farmer and he was raised in a poor rural community. After his many different careers, in the end he returns to his roots. > > Leoben said that the 2s, 6s, and 8s would be joining the humans on New Earth. > > Deanna was left to die on the original Earth (her choice). Was Leoben even in the finale? I didn’t see him at all… ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/174 "2009-03-22T00:00:24Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > I’ve been humming that song since I was 9 years old. I notice it was a very, very short clip. Must have still cost them some coin since they were unwilling to splurge during Season 3 😃 I’m glad they ended the series when they did. I think going on longer with such a complex mythology would have led to them painting themselves into a very tight corner for the eventual series finale. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/175 "2009-03-22T00:05:36Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > …They even hung a lantern on it, but weren’t able to explain the whole abandonment of technology decision. I’ll easily buy that Lee and certain others would like to “start fresh,” but there is no frakkin way most people would agree to that… True. It would have made more sense if the anti-tech faction decided to settle in what would become Tanzania, and the pro-tech split up into 2 or 3 other settlements on different continents. _Then_ fast-forward 150K years to Six’s talking about Mitochondrial Eve (Hera) with the obvious (but unsaid) implication that Luddites were the only ones so survive. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/176 "2009-03-22T00:33:09Z")
> [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > And I LOVED the ending with the dancing robots. Not to mention the Japanese fembot who was reminiscent of the Eights. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/177 "2009-03-22T00:35:10Z")
> [@Skara\_Brae](#): > > Was Leoben even in the finale? I didn’t see him at all… He was the one who announced that the 2’s, 6’s and 8’s would stay on Earth, “to see what we can contribute to the world before passing into God’s hands.” ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/178 "2009-03-22T01:32:54Z")
> [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > That reminds me of my question. Galen says he’s going to an island off one of the northern continents. It’s cold, in the highlands, and with no people. Is Galen the father of all Scots? Well, no, since all mankind eventually comes from Africa. Aaron Douglas, who played Tyrol, is from Vancouver. The show’s mostly shot in Vancouver. I’m guessing it was a shout out to Vancouver Island (which I recognize Vancouver the city is not on, but it’s right across the water.) ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/179 "2009-03-22T01:42:34Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Nothing in show, besides the talk between Adama & Roslin where he told her they’re going to call this Earth. But Ron Moore has confirmed in the interview I linked before that the nuked planet they found first is definitely not the same place as where they ended up, which IS supposed to be the planet all of us are currently living on. Not so. At the very end when Head Six and Head Baltar are 150,000 years later, they explicitly list _two different_ Earths when talking about the cycle that had recurred on Kobol, original Earth, Caprica, and new Earth. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206/180 "2009-03-22T02:07:09Z")
**Lightray** , **Muldoon** ’s point is that your “new Earth” is meant to be the real Earth. > [@alphaboi867](#): > > _Then_ fast-forward 150K years to Six’s talking about Mitochondrial Eve (Hera) with the obvious (but unsaid) implication that Luddites were the only ones so survive. 😉 But we already know that everyone except the people who stayed in Africa died out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-finale-thread/490206.md?page=10)