# Battlestar Galactica frakchart \[Spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 30, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058 "2010-01-30T21:40:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/1 "2010-01-30T21:40:40Z")
Fellow Galactica fans, have you too had trouble remembering just who’s fraking whom? So have I. So I put together [a helpful chart](http://cassandra.physics.montana.edu/frakchart.gif) to keep track (spoilers from all seasons in link). Men’s names are in blue, women’s in magenta. A line is drawn between any two characters who are known or strongly implied to have had sex (a dotted line indicates that sex is plausible but uncertain). The line is green to indicate uncoerced informed consent, while a red line indicates coercion or a lack of informed consent. All characters are listed by their full name, so far as it’s known, and nicknames in quotes where appropriate. Some groups of minor characters are listed as single entries, where it’s not known who all the individuals were. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/2 "2010-01-30T22:03:37Z")
A little bored today, eh? Still, a fine piece of work and just the sort of thing that the internets were invented for :p. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/3 "2010-01-30T22:05:55Z")
In other words, when Baltar gets the Space Herpes, _everybody_ gets the Space Herpes. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/4 "2010-01-30T22:12:41Z")
What’s with the dotted line from Adama to Ellen? Apart from when Bill lied to Saul to get him to kill him, I don’t remember any implication of a connection there. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/5 "2010-01-30T23:09:56Z")
The line’s dotted to reflect the fact that he was _probably_ lying, but I don’t think we can be certain of that. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/6 "2010-01-30T23:53:07Z")
I did the same kinda thing for [Big Love](http://www.friedo.com/biglovefam4.jpg) so I could keep track of all the semi-incestuous polygamous relationships. Based on the last couple episodes I think I need to amend it a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/7 "2010-01-31T01:47:47Z")
You know, had they made Shevon one of Gaius’ assorted whores, that might have made Black Market somewhat worthwhile (beyond the microfact it reveals about Zarek that’s later relevant). And Hot Dog should have more lines to _someone_; he did get space herpies, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/8 "2010-01-31T05:03:17Z")
The other pilots certainly joke about Hot Dog, but were there any other specific women (or men) he’s known to have been with? Likewise, it seems like Kat really should be on there, but I can’t think of anyone for her, either. Did Kat and Hot Dog ever sleep together? That’d at least get her on the chart. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/9 "2010-01-31T15:47:10Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > The other pilots certainly joke about Hot Dog, but were there any other specific women (or men) he’s known to have been with? Likewise, it seems like Kat really should be on there, but I can’t think of anyone for her, either. Did Kat and Hot Dog ever sleep together? That’d at least get her on the chart. Who was the fellow who was going to out Kat? Was it an ex-BF or was it a relative? ---
**Author:** ![Iolanthe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7bcc69/32.png) [@Iolanthe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iolanthe)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/10 "2010-01-31T16:54:02Z")
Love this chart. > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Who was the fellow who was going to out Kat? Was it an ex-BF or was it a relative? As she shtupped him before she took her final flight, I’m thinking he was an ex-BF. Kat had her issues, but I don’t think incest was to her taste. That line between Dee and Billy should be solid - remember she pulls him onto her hospital bed and tells him to shut the privacy curtain at the end of Valley of Darkness? And possibly the line between Kara and Leoben should be dotted? I don’t think they actually physically slept together - I think he was waiting until she was frakked up/stockholmed enough to go to him “willingly”. (I hate that Leoben.) Poor Gina. Poor, poor Gina. No dotted line between Baltar and Gaeta? I guess that’s really _only_ subtextual and doesn’t even have one spoken line like Bill & Ellen, but it’s pretty damn strong subtext. Wow. If for the sake of argument one assumes a line twixt Gaius and Felix, and assumes the line twixt Bill & Ellen is correct, _everyone’s_ connected. That Caprican clap is having a field day. Racetrack’s gonna have to run the ship. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/11 "2010-01-31T21:04:06Z")
> [@](#): > > As she shtupped him before she took her final flight, I’m thinking he was an ex-BF. Kat had her issues, but I don’t think incest was to her taste. OK, I didn’t remember that clearly, but it doesn’t surprise me. IIRC, the relationship was primarily a business one, and the fraking might have had something to do with the blackmail… Green line or red? Also, did she ever frak any of the characters already on the chart? It seems likely that she did… A girl who’d give the news camera crews a spread-leg moon probably wouldn’t be shy about the bed, but I can’t just draw a general line leading nowhere in particular. > [@](#): > > That line between Dee and Billy should be solid - remember she pulls him onto her hospital bed and tells him to shut the privacy curtain at the end of Valley of Darkness? OK, I _definitely_ don’t remember that, and I would have thought I would have. I identified a lot with Billy, and was paying a lot of attention to the progress of his relationship with Dee. Cite? > [@](#): > > And possibly the line between Kara and Leoben should be dotted? I don’t think they actually physically slept together - I think he was waiting until she was frakked up/stockholmed enough to go to him “willingly”. (I hate that Leoben.) Well, she certainly had dreams about the two of them having sex, after the fact, and while Leoben did want her to be “willing”, I think he was wrong enough in the head that that he also wouldn’t have seen a little physical rape to go with the mindrape as a problem, before that point. > [@](#): > > No dotted line between Baltar and Gaeta? I guess that’s really _only_ subtextual and doesn’t even have one spoken line like Bill & Ellen, but it’s pretty damn strong subtext. I did get the impression, right from the start, that Gaeta’s opinion of Baltar was more than just professional respect, but it looked entirely one-sided to me. I don’t think Baltar swings that way. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/12 "2010-01-31T21:09:52Z")
Oh, and nobody’s asked yet, but the line between Thorne and Athena is dotted because it’s not clear to me whether he was just starting or just finishing when he had his unfortunate accident where he tripped over Helo and the Chief and hit the bulkhead. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/13 "2010-01-31T22:08:38Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Oh, and nobody’s asked yet, but the line between Thorne and Athena is dotted because it’s not clear to me whether he was just starting or just finishing when he had his unfortunate accident where he tripped over Helo and the Chief and hit the bulkhead. I haven’t seen it since it first aired, but didn’t Cottle imply pretty strongly that it was “after” when he was examining her & patching her up? Oh, and what’s the justification for the line from Roslin to Adar? I don’t doubt you, I just don’t remember there being any implications beyond friendship. And I have to admit, when I first saw “Gaeta’s Eight”, I thought “There were eight of them?” ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/14 "2010-01-31T22:46:00Z")
When did Baltar knock boots with Kara? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/15 "2010-01-31T23:15:04Z")
“Kobol’s Last Gleaming, Part 1” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/16 "2010-01-31T23:44:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Oh, and what’s the justification for the line from Roslin to Adar? I don’t doubt you, I just don’t remember there being any implications beyond friendship. There’s a flashback scene where they’ve just finished some bit of official business, and start making out. I don’t remember what episode it was, though. Come to think of it, too, there was also an episode where she’s assigned some arm-candy fellow to go with her to some official function, and he turns out to have been one of her former students. I’ll have to see if I can dig up his name. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/17 "2010-01-31T23:53:28Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > “Kobol’s Last Gleaming, Part 1” And she called him “Lee” in the throes of passion. Which I’m guessing has never happened to Baltar before. > [@Chronos](#): > > Come to think of it, too, there was also an episode where she’s assigned some arm-candy fellow to go with her to some official function, and he turns out to have been one of her former students. I’ll have to see if I can dig up his name. Isn’t that the blind date her friends set her up with from the series finale? She realizes early on that he’s a former student, goes on the date anyway, goes to bed with him, kicks him out immediately afterwards, and then signs up for Adar’s campaign for the presidency. BTW, in the “Razor” webisodes, young Bill Adama is seen knocking boots with another pilot named “Jaycie McGavin”. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/18 "2010-02-01T01:45:57Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > I haven’t seen it since it first aired, but didn’t Cottle imply pretty strongly that it was “after” when he was examining her & patching her up? In the scene as aired, they edited it so that Athena had not yet been raped when the cavalry came charging in. In the extended scene on the DVD, the action implies otherwise. I guess the latter was too ooky for broadcast. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/19 "2010-02-01T04:58:02Z")
In the notes section of Battlestar Wiki for Racetrack - [Margaret Edmondson - Battlestar Wiki](http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Margaret_Edmondson) - it is claimed that the actors for Helo and Racetrack played their roles as though they had had a sexual relationship in the past. Surely a mention in the Battlestar Wiki warrants a dotted line between those two doesn’t it? Racetrack is too hot not to be getting it on with _somebody_ ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058/20 "2010-02-01T05:33:11Z")
OK, that’s good enough for a dotted line connecting her to Helo, though I might have to re-arrange some things to make room for her. I’ll also solidify the line between Thorne and Athena, add Kat and her old partner (who I’d still like to connect to the main graph, but given that I included Gaeta, that’s clearly not a requirement), and add Roslyn’s student, next time I get a chance. Not sure when that’ll be, though. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-frakchart-spoilers/527058.md?page=2)