# Battlestar Galactica: He That Believeth In Me - Season 4 Premiere (Open Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 4, 2008, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887 "2008-04-04T03:38:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/41 "2008-04-04T17:22:29Z")
For the love of God, people – it’s been four frakkin’ seasons, could we please spell the name of [Saul TIGH](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Tigh) correctly by now?!? T-I-G-H. No E. like to drive me crazy, it will ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/42 "2008-04-04T17:36:18Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] T-I-G-H. No E. [/QUOTE] When he’s been drinkin’ he drops the “e”. Which is most of the time. :rolleyes: thanks. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/43 "2008-04-04T17:43:34Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] When he’s been drinkin’ he drops the “e”. Which is most of the time. [/QUOTE] **OR,** you’ve just seen his name when it’s been in the unlucky place after they’ve whacked the corners off the paper. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/44 "2008-04-04T17:46:29Z")
So…anyone know how many eps we’re getting before the break? Or are they running it all the way through till the end? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/45 "2008-04-04T17:47:36Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] And the damn music. _The Watchtower._ Why the hell wasn’t it _Crossroad Blues_ “Save old Tighe, If you please.” 🙂 or better yet, _Me and the Devil Blues?_ [/QUOTE] Or a bit of Simon & Garfunkel: “The Sound of Cylons.” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/46 "2008-04-04T18:02:33Z")
[QUOTE=pinkfreud] Or a bit of Simon & Garfunkel: “The Sound of Cylons.” [/QUOTE] I got vision and the rest of the universe wears bifocals. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/47 "2008-04-04T19:15:50Z")
I’m going for Dee (Anastasia Dualla.) How convenient that she left her roots behind on Sagitton. She’s a Cylon. Out the airlock! ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/48 "2008-04-04T19:44:22Z")
The NY Times has a spoiler-free review here: [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/04/arts/television/04gala.html?\_r=1&oref=slogin](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/04/arts/television/04gala.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/49 "2008-04-04T19:46:08Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] So…anyone know how many eps we’re getting before the break? Or are they running it all the way through till the end? -Joe [/QUOTE] Ten episodes before the break. They stopped filming for the strike and they won’t be able to complete post-production on any new episodes until the Fall. Having said that, I’d expect a year-long wait. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/50 "2008-04-04T19:56:28Z")
[QUOTE=Mahaloth] Having said that, I’d expect a year-long wait. [/QUOTE] You think Ron Moore knows we will track him down and kill him when it turns out that _everyone_ is a Cylon, or is it a plot to makes us all watch _As Caprica Turns_ while we wait for better fare? Did I spell that right? ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/51 "2008-04-04T19:56:49Z")
OK, people it has been a while. I don’t want anyone to be injured. So take your time, stretch out, loosen up and get good and warmed up before diving into the thread. [tweet!] ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/52 "2008-04-04T20:10:37Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] If you want a really fast talking somewhat snarky catch-up on everything that’s happened so far, watch [What the Frak is Going On?](http://video.scifi.com/player/?id=224004) also on the Scifi site. [/QUOTE] Bravo! ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/53 "2008-04-04T20:14:58Z")
From the teaser for S4, it looks like Baltar’s back to his crusty old cynical Athiest self to boot, no more mindless god-bothering whimpering, YAAY! and of course, the rest of the footage looks frakkin’ amazing to boot, looks like the end of “As the Battlestar Turns” soap opera-y dren looks like a schism is forming between the “can’t we all just get along” Meatbags (Six and Boomer/Athena), and the “Kill All Humans” meatbags I predict a tenuous alliance, at least a mutual tolerance developing between the Six/Boomer models and Humanity… ---
**Author:** ![Hellestal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ab097/32.png) [@Hellestal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hellestal)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/54 "2008-04-04T20:24:58Z")
[QUOTE=MacTech] From the teaser for S4, it looks like Baltar’s back to his crusty old cynical Athiest self to boot, no more mindless god-bothering whimpering, YAAY! [/QUOTE] Huh. I was interpreting that as a conversion to the _monotheism_ of the Cylon. I guess your take makes more sense. And my S4 prediction, for the record: Man was created by the Cylons. It’s cyclical: creation, rebellion, annihilation, guilt, recreation of the creators, rebellion, annihilation, guilt, etc. _All of this has happened before…_ I don’t actually believe this strongly, but I want to take credit for an early guess if I turn out to be right. If it’s wrong, let us never speak of this post again. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/55 "2008-04-04T20:55:04Z")
[QUOTE=MacTech] …looks like a schism is forming between the “can’t we all just get along” Meatbags (Six and Boomer/Athena), and the “Kill All Humans” meatbags… [/QUOTE] And from what I’ve heard the “Baltar is God’s prophet” Threes will be back for at least one episode. ---
**Author:** ![joemama24\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@joemama24\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joemama24_98)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/56 "2008-04-04T23:52:00Z")
[QUOTE=RickJay] I’m going for Dee (Anastasia Dualla.) How convenient that she left her roots behind on Sagitton. She’s a Cylon. Out the airlock! [/QUOTE] ooh…that’s good. Forgot about her…though I used to wonder - “Dualla” has the root “dual”. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/57 "2008-04-05T01:50:54Z")
[QUOTE=Kendall Jackson] Huh. I was interpreting that as a conversion to the _monotheism_ of the Cylon. I guess your take makes more sense. [/quote] I guess it could work either way, I _HOPE_ Baltar rejects Toasterism and goes back to being Space-Dawkins though… [QUOTE=Kendall Jackson] And my S4 prediction, for the record: Man was created by the Cylons. It’s cyclical: creation, rebellion, annihilation, guilt, recreation of the creators, rebellion, annihilation, guilt, etc. _All of this has happened before…_ I don’t actually believe this strongly, but I want to take credit for an early guess if I turn out to be right. If it’s wrong, let us never speak of this post again. [/QUOTE] That’d be an interesting twist, better than the rumored ending of _everyone’s_ a Toaster ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/58 "2008-04-05T02:11:08Z")
The count: 39, 698 left. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/59 "2008-04-05T02:14:07Z")
Frak, no one can say Ron Moore doesn’t know how to start a season with a bang. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887/60 "2008-04-05T02:21:39Z")
So, Blanders has his switch activated, and Balty seems to be in a Hippie commune/Balty-worship cult (he’s even sporting a fashionable Jebus-esque beard to boot) Frak!, it looks like he’s been assimilated by Toasterism [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me-season-4-premiere-open-spoilers/443887.md?page=4)