# Battlestar galactica sucks **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 25, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645 "2011-04-25T14:29:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/81 "2011-04-26T03:32:42Z")
> [@Walmarticus](#): > > I don’t give a fuck how many people it has as long as they compliment each other and they don’t just exist in their own little bubbles. I think you’re on to something here. The way I envision this going is something like this: STARBUCK You’re looking really good today, Lee. LEE ADAMA Hey, you too, Starbuck. I especially like your shirt. STARBUCK Thanks! CMDR. ADAMA [enters the bridge] Have I told you guys lately how much I really just appreciate your insight on life? STARBUCK and LEE ADAMA Thanks, sir! BALTAR Starbuck, has anyone told you how great your shirt looks today? STARBUCK Yes, but coming from you, it means so much more. BALTAR Really? STARBUCK Totally. BALTAR I love you guys. CYLON It’s true, you guys have the best Battlestar. That’s why we saved it for last. EVERYONE Aww! [FADE OUT on EVERYONE singing “I’d Like To Buy the World a Coke”] ---
**Author:** ![Walmarticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Walmarticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walmarticus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/82 "2011-04-26T03:52:36Z")
> [@The\_Conqueror\_Worm](#): > > I think Walmarticus has watched more of the series that (s)he is revealing. The mini-series and the first couple of episodes were the highlight of the series. They built up huge expectation and anticipation of what was to come in the following episodes. It was how they resolved and concluded the show that was the real problem. > > Walster… if you really hated the first couple of episodes, stop now, run, do not walk away from the rest of them. Find another distraction. If you post in another 2, 3 weeks (or months) about how crappy you think the entire run was you are nothing but a putz. I’ve honestly only seen the first two episodes. I’m not surprised they couldn’t nicely resolve series considering the incoherence I’ve seen so far. People in this thread have talked about them arbitrarily dropping story elements. In the first couple episodes, I guess my problem was arbitrarily picking up story elements. > [@Chronos](#): > > Am I the only one who realizes that **Walmarticus** is whooshing everyone? I mean, nobody ever says something like “I knew in like the first second that Starbuck was the greatest character ever created. When the camera cut to something that wasn’t her face it was all downhill from there.” about something they actually don’t like. _I_ didn’t even realize. The show blows but that character is several magnitudes of adorable. I never said I didn’t like Starbuck and I never will. BSG could be as terrible as Lost and I’d still love that character. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/83 "2011-04-26T03:58:21Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Watch the whole series and realize you are wronger than Dolly Parton with a one meter penis…we win… > > Watch the whole series and realize you were right and still bitch and moan about how it sucks…we still win… So what you’re saying is that if he watches the last episode, he loses? I think I can agree with that. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Conqueror\_Worm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@The\_Conqueror\_Worm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Conqueror_Worm)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/84 "2011-04-26T04:00:19Z")
> [@Walmarticus](#): > > I’ve honestly only seen the first two episodes. I’m not surprised they couldn’t nicely resolve series considering the incoherence I’ve seen so far. People in this thread have talked about them arbitrarily dropping story elements. In the first couple episodes, I guess my problem was arbitrarily picking up story elements. My friendly advice, give up on the series now. Me, I enjoyed most of the ride. You, you won’t. Stop now and find something you will think better suited. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/85 "2011-04-26T04:57:43Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Am I the only one who realizes that **Walmarticus** is whooshing everyone? I mean, nobody ever says something like “I knew in like the first second that Starbuck was the greatest character ever created. When the camera cut to something that wasn’t her face it was all downhill from there.” about something they actually don’t like. Don’t know if it’s a legitimate whoosh, but the thread does come as a huge relief because now I know that any thread, any contribution he makes I can safely skip over and know I’m not missing much. Why–because I disagree with him? Hardly. It’s because he manages to act infantile, entitled, and aggressive in just exactly the right tonal combination to be overwhelmingly irritating. He’s clearly trying to be cute or jovial or irreverent in his demeanor at times, but he just comes across as a royal prick. But even pricks have legitimate arguments, cogently articulated; all he has is this one dead horse he keeps beating and beating, as if the act of repetition alone will convince others. It won’t. Remedial “analysis” (I use the term liberally in his case) at its delusional worst. So whew! Now I know. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/86 "2011-04-26T05:07:09Z")
I’ve just watched 5 episodes and the miniseries so far–started watching it last week. And I \*love \*it. I watched the original show when I was young and loved that, too. I think the new series retains the spirit of the original remarkably well while cutting back on the corniness (but not too much). Some things don’t appeal to some people. I can’t get into _Buffy_, for example. If you don’t like BSG enough to write the OP, give up. ---
**Author:** ![Walmarticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Walmarticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walmarticus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/87 "2011-04-26T06:14:21Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > Don’t know if it’s a legitimate whoosh, but the thread does come as a huge relief because now I know that any thread, any contribution he makes I can safely skip over and know I’m not missing much. Why–because I disagree with him? Hardly. > > It’s because he manages to act infantile, entitled, and aggressive in just exactly the right tonal combination to be overwhelmingly irritating. He’s clearly trying to be cute or jovial or irreverent in his demeanor at times, but he just comes across as a royal prick. But even pricks have legitimate arguments, cogently articulated; all he has is this one dead horse he keeps beating and beating, as if the act of repetition alone will convince others. It won’t. Remedial “analysis” (I use the term liberally in his case) at its delusional worst. > > So whew! Now I know. I’m forced to keep repeating myself because people keep misunderstanding my complaint with the show. I’m not trying to convince others to buy my complaint, but to stop misunderstanding. I say, “this show is bad and you should feel bad”. You say “no fun allowed”. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@Mister\_Owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Owl)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/88 "2011-04-26T06:38:28Z")
Now, how do I say it respectfully, …oh hell forget it. The regulars already know and I ain’t even gonna try now. Have fun, enjoy or not as you see fit. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/89 "2011-04-26T08:05:36Z")
> [@The\_Conqueror\_Worm](#): > > My friendly advice, give up on the series now. Me, I enjoyed most of the ride. You, you won’t. Stop now and find something you will think better suited. Or he could just watch the miniseries and get all the introductions to the characters and their backgrounds. Currently he is doing the equivalent of watching only episodes six and seven of Lost and declaring it to be shit because he doesn’t understand who the characters are and how they relate to each other. Of course when/if he watches the miniseries he’ll still declare it to be shit as his mind is made up. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/90 "2011-04-26T08:22:22Z")
> [@Walmarticus](#): > > The show also sucks because I immediately fell madly in love with the butch girl and she didn’t play a prominent enough part. Dude, if you’re a fan of Starbuck _you_ should feel bad. She’s a horrible character and an all around horrible human being. She’s gotta be on par with the President for “people on BSG who make me want to punch them in their self-absorbed mouth at least twice per episode”. Oh, also Head Six. God, but does she need a smack in the gob too. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/91 "2011-04-26T10:00:11Z")
I’m failing to see the truth of the OP’s argument - I mean, all the characters \*are \*interconnected, and he keeps insisting they’re not? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/92 "2011-04-26T10:38:22Z")
It’s too bad that the OP doesn’t understand BSG, ah well. It’s really not very complicated. The last episode was fucking horrible though. Out of all the ways they could have ended the series, the way they did really felt like a huge letdown. After a series spent being fairly edgy, right up to setting up suicide bombers as the _good guys_ on New Capcrica… the end was just like eating a big pie made of sand. Truly shitty. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/93 "2011-04-26T12:09:44Z")
> [@Walmarticus](#): > > We need more Cafe Society threads talking about things when they suck. They are much more fun. > [@Walmarticus](#): > > There is no possibility of offending the fine gentlemen here because I trashed a show they like. Nothing to lose and the only thing to gain is the fun of talking trash- because gentlemen enjoy talking trash, I guess. I dunno. > [@Walmarticus](#): > > I say, “this show is bad and you should feel bad”. You say “no fun allowed”. Putting a lot of your comments together, it’s starting to look like trolling to me. Trolling, as you know, is against the rules, so you may want to rethink your strategy here. You may tell people what you think. You may not tell people what they should think. **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/94 "2011-04-26T19:20:08Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > The last episode was fucking horrible though. Out of all the ways they could have ended the series, the way they did really felt like a huge letdown. After a series spent being fairly edgy, right up to setting up suicide bombers as the _good guys_ on New Capcrica… the end was just like eating a big pie made of sand. Truly shitty. Personally I gave up when Starbuck came back from the dead. And was an angel. Who knew the way to Earth by listening to the fucking song of space. At this point the retardation was just too much to bear. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/95 "2011-04-26T19:35:25Z")
I watched the first episode without having watched the miniseries, and I was completely hooked. I hate bad exposition–nothing takes me more out of a story than bad exposition ( **Dark City** , I’m looking at you)–and so this story that basically gave the finger to exposition was right up my alley. Sure, I was almost as confused by it as **Walmarticus** , but I figured that was a meta-technique: it threw me off-balance and made me anxious and therefore got me into the heads of the characters. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/96 "2011-04-26T21:21:43Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > At this point the retardation was just too much to bear. To be fair, it was Bob Dylan space music… so I forgave it. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/97 "2011-04-26T21:50:17Z")
I really enjoyed the first couple seasons. I didnt mind the slow development, and the interesting mysteries and questions it raised. If I could go back in time, I’d warn myself not to even start the series because it ended up devolving into stupidity and character inconsistencies that made it all but intolerable. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/98 "2011-04-26T21:51:16Z")
I actually liked the ending. But then, I had long before that realized that the series was actually fantasy under a thin veneer of science fiction, so the fact that they went with a fantasy ending didn’t bother me. After all, I love both genres equally. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/99 "2011-04-26T22:21:30Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I actually liked the ending. > > But then, I had long before that realized that the series was actually fantasy under a thin veneer of science fiction, so the fact that they went with a fantasy ending didn’t bother me. After all, I love both genres equally. If it was made obvious from the start instead of being shoehorned in part way through, and if it was the good sort of fantasy, I might agree. The entire cast entering a suicide pact, throwing away their goals and dying short, pointless lives out of stupidity is not the good sort of fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645/100 "2011-04-27T00:27:09Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I actually liked the ending. Me too. I actually think it is the best series finale of all time. I know. We’re weird. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-sucks/579645.md?page=6)