# Battlestar Galactica; "The Ties That Bind" 18 April '08 (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 19, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966 "2008-04-19T02:04:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/1 "2008-04-19T02:04:05Z")
It’s 10:00pm and nobody’s started a thread yet? Who _doesn’t_ think Cally will die tonight? ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/2 "2008-04-19T02:22:39Z")
personally, I couldn’t care less about Cally one way or the other, but… Nicky _really_ needs to have some bread shoved into his toaster slot to shut him the frak up, I _HATE_ whiny, screaming brats it was bad enough to hear that noxious little rugrat at the start of this ep, but the additional eardrum-shattering screaming is even more unwelcome the more I hear it, this episode is really pissing me off now the Mute button on the remote is going to be getting a workout tonight ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/3 "2008-04-19T02:31:32Z")
Is it just me, or are the bad old days of “As the Battlestar Turns” back in this episode, too much whiny brat and soap-opera-y crap starting to get bored, as well as pissed off here, lets see some more “The Chrome and the Grey” Toaster Civil War stuff, drop the soap-opera-y crap, nobody cares, oh and either shove some bread in Nicky, or put him out the airlock! ---
**Author:** ![Strinka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strinka/32/512_2.png) [@Strinka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strinka)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/4 "2008-04-19T02:46:27Z")
Anyone else notice the Star Trek reference? Weapons Locker 1701D, same as the Enterprise’s serial number. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/5 "2008-04-19T02:46:52Z")
Oh _JOY!_ now we have the privilege of watching the intricacies of the Colonial political system \ y’know, they _could_ have done away with all the soap-opera-y crap and concentrated solely on the Cylon Civil War Heh, Cally now knows she’s a Toaster-Frakker, that oughta’ push her over the edge, maybe she’ll try to return Nicky to the store, hope she kept the reciept and purchased the ToasterCare extended warranty ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/6 "2008-04-19T03:01:00Z")
Nick looks like a baby Michael Moore. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/7 "2008-04-19T03:05:28Z")
dammit, I liked Cally. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/8 "2008-04-19T03:08:38Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] dammit, I liked Cally. [/QUOTE] Oh, come on! No one likes Cally! So is Tory just going to accept herself and be an “evil” Cylon? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/9 "2008-04-19T03:09:23Z")
Tori’s got a mean backhand. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/10 "2008-04-19T03:10:05Z")
I really thought that Cally might take Nick into the void with her, but then again he’s one of only two human-Cylon hybrids. He’s not going to be killed off (at least this early). We know what Tory is going to tell everyone “I got the baby away from her, but she wouldn’t leave the airlock. Sniff, sniff.” Is she going to tell Tyrol that? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/11 "2008-04-19T03:14:57Z")
[QUOTE=Mahaloth] Oh, come on! No one likes Cally! [/QUOTE] Hell, yes. The episode where the asshole non com was trying to get her to suicide charge the Cylons and Baltar waxed him comes to mind. The only decent thing Baltar ever did. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/12 "2008-04-19T03:17:11Z")
Why the hell is a “Hillary Clinton in 2008” add at the bottom of a fracking _Cylon_ thread? Maybe I should go for Obama. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/13 "2008-04-19T03:20:07Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Why the hell is a “Hillary Clinton in 2008” add at the bottom of a fracking _Cylon_ thread? Maybe I should go for Obama. [/QUOTE] that’s because Hillary has a fondness, nay, an _obsession_ with grilled bread products… Yes, I said it, Hillary’s a Toaster! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/14 "2008-04-19T03:21:13Z")
[QUOTE=MacTech] that’s because Hillary has a fondness, nay, an _obsession_ with grilled bread products… [/QUOTE] Hell of a thing to accuse her of at Passover. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/15 "2008-04-19T03:21:43Z")
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! Someone _finally_ tossed Cally out the Viper bay! sorry, **carnivorousplant** , but she’s been workin’ my last nerve for _seasons_ The rest was pure filler and set-up… so I was _very_ surprised to see them spend guest star time for Doc Cottle and Tom Zarek as, basically, walk-ons. I know, it’s been forever since we’ve seen them, but you think they’d do a little more after the bother of getting them in the ep. … and was I the only one waiting for Laura to start laughing over that atrociously purple prose that Bill was torturing her with? ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/16 "2008-04-19T03:27:39Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] … and was I the only one waiting for Laura to start laughing over that atrociously purple prose that Bill was torturing her with? [/QUOTE] Could be worse, could be Vogon Poetry… as far as the whole episode goes, strike the soap-opera-y crap, the useless political crap, and the screaming Toasterbrat, and concentrate fully on the Cylon Civil War stuff, twenty minutes of actual _interesting_ stuff in a one hour episode, pretty bad, not “Black Market” bad, but down there pretty low on a scale of 1-10, I give this week’s ep a 3.75 it lost points for the soap opera crap, the political crap, and lost _BIG_ points for The Screaming Toasterbrat (Band Name!) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/17 "2008-04-19T03:31:31Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! Someone _finally_ tossed Cally out the Viper bay! [/QUOTE] My Seconds shall call upon you in the morning, Sir. Bad poetry and tacky commentary. Brickbats at half a parsec. “frabjous”? He must be a Cylon. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/18 "2008-04-19T03:32:09Z")
[QUOTE=Lightray] … and was I the only one waiting for Laura to start laughing over that atrociously purple prose that Bill was torturing her with? [/QUOTE] She was laughing. Adama basically tortured her into preferring getting out of bed and facing the Quorum to another chapter of \*it was a dark and stormy night… \* Oh, and I guess the moral of this ep is don’t piss off Cavil. He’ll kill you really really dead. Interesting all the various meat-puppet models apparently aren’t unanimous in mind after all. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/19 "2008-04-19T03:35:03Z")
[QUOTE=MacTech] on a scale of 1-10, I give this week’s ep a 3.75 [/QUOTE] Come _on,_ you’re just pissed off because you saw Dean Stockwell naked. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2008, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966/20 "2008-04-19T03:37:08Z")
Well, this episode certainly gets the award for the most gratuitous use of the word “frak”. On an unrelated note, I can’t freaking figure out the layout of the flight decks. You have the pods where the Vipers land which seem to be mostly empty space. And then the planes go into a sealed maintenance area. And then you have these long launch tubes perpendicular to the ship. I just can’t figure out how they all fit together. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-the-ties-that-bind-18-april-08-open-spoilers/445966.md?page=2)