# Battlestar Galactica thoughts and other life things **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 22, 2024, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-thoughts-and-other-life-things/1012016 "2024-12-22T14:33:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-thoughts-and-other-life-things/1012016/21 "2024-12-24T07:01:54Z")
Allegedly, the creator of Severance has an overall plan for where the show is going and how it will end. The best-laid plans and all that, of course, but at least that gives some hope that it won’t turn out to be another first-season-is-amazeballs-then-it-all-turns-to-shit type show, cf. Heroes, Westworld, or BSG. Plus, it’s another reason for vislor to subscribe to Apple TV+. Season two begins January 17! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-thoughts-and-other-life-things/1012016/22 "2024-12-24T07:20:32Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Babylon 5 is a series with a plan. Though the panned ending had to be moved to the end of 4th season instead of the 5th (renewal was not assured). Thus the 5th season suffered. And they lost the top-billed star to mental health problems at the end of season 1, forcing them to create a new captain who was also destined to be a Messiah, and wrap up their first Messiah’s story arc in a two-parter in the third season. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-thoughts-and-other-life-things/1012016/23 "2024-12-24T07:51:28Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I really wonder why folks in charge of shows even try for these season-long arcs? Audiences have gotten more sophisticated, auteur show creators have bigger stories they want to tell, premium channels and streaming services aren’t beholden to old school viewership retention concepts, the rise of binge watching. Those are a few reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-thoughts-and-other-life-things/1012016/24 "2024-12-24T08:17:53Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Babylon 5 is a series with a plan. Though the panned ending had to be moved to the end of 4th season instead of the 5th (renewal was not assured). Thus the 5th season suffered. Best as I can tell, at first they thought they wouldn’t even get a 4th season. I can’t confirm it, but I suspect they begged the network to give them 6 episodes to wrap up the Shadow War - the most important plotline - and only then were they given the rest of the season to to finish the main B-plots (the Earth rebellion and Minbari civil war). ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-thoughts-and-other-life-things/1012016/25 "2024-12-25T03:57:11Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@N9IWP](#): > > > > Babylon 5 is a series with a plan. Though the panned ending had to be moved to the end of 4th season instead of the 5th (renewal was not assured). Thus the 5th season suffered. > > And they lost the top-billed star to mental health problems at the end of season 1, forcing them to create a new captain who was also destined to be a Messiah, and wrap up their first Messiah’s story arc in a two-parter in the third season. Bab5 is in my top three shows, maybe top one. I have read about it and followed a lot of it. The writer/creator JMS, has said that he had plans on how to write out any character and still tell his story. He had worked on TV the previous decade and knew how production went. He had contingencies for a lot of things, it seems. Season three is still the only season in television written by one person, JMS. As it was 24 episodes, I don’t see that being beaten anytime soon. It is also amazing! The way it wraps up several story lines is still great. Whether season five did as well, is tough to say, but rewatching it recently, it was better than I remembered. > [@Alessan](#): > > > [@N9IWP](#): > > > > Babylon 5 is a series with a plan. Though the panned ending had to be moved to the end of 4th season instead of the 5th (renewal was not assured). Thus the 5th season suffered. > > Best as I can tell, at first they thought they wouldn’t even get a 4th season. I can’t confirm it, but I suspect they begged the network to give them 6 episodes to wrap up the Shadow War - the most important plotline - and only then were they given the rest of the season to to finish the main B-plots (the Earth rebellion and Minbari civil war). They had a rough time getting season two but then got through season four. It was season five when renewals came up again. It took long enough to get season five, that they lost Claudia Christian. The others were willing to wait a bit longer but she wasn’t. If JMS had known he would get season five, I read he would have had the Shadow War go into season five, possibly ending s4 with Intersections in Real Time but I don’t know what else he would have done. JMS is no saint but Bab5 is a testament to what someone who knows TV can do with a five year plan. We might get shows with references to other seasons but nothing as well done as Babylon 5. /gets off soapbox ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-thoughts-and-other-life-things/1012016/26 "2024-12-25T04:35:09Z")
> [@vislor](#): > > JMS is no saint but Bab5 is a testament to what someone who knows TV can do with a five year plan. We might get shows with references to other seasons but nothing as well done as Babylon 5. Well, as one Doper put it; > [@Ridiculous portrayals of professions on TV](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ridiculous-portrayals-of-professions-on-tv/601375/123): > > Babylon 5 doesn’t get any better, it will always be just what it is, caught on film like a fly in amber. It’s up to each person to decide, in the quiet turning of their considered conscience, whether or not they like what it is (with, albeit, a rather rocky first season). ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-thoughts-and-other-life-things/1012016/27 "2024-12-25T16:37:46Z")
> [@Ridiculous portrayals of professions on TV](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ridiculous-portrayals-of-professions-on-tv/601375/123): > > Babylon 5 doesn’t get any better, it will always be just what it is, caught on film like a fly in amber. It’s up to each person to decide, in the quiet turning of their considered conscience, whether or not they like what it is (with, albeit, a rather rocky first season). Pfft, what does that guy know! Actually, 😲 I’m not surprised as he did a lot of fan interaction on BBSs back when Bab5 was on the air. Thanks for that! ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-thoughts-and-other-life-things/1012016/28 "2024-12-29T05:02:55Z")
Battlestar may not be rewatchable, I did love it the first time and i have failed to complete subsequent rewatch attempts… However, it has given me the term Nuggets for the two youngest kitties in my house, they are almost four so, definitely not newbie warriors, but Rin and Toast will always be Nuggets and that adorable nickname comes out of BSG. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-thoughts-and-other-life-things/1012016/29 "2024-12-29T18:18:55Z")
“Nugget” is pretty standard military slang for a newbie officer. BSG got it from the real world. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-thoughts-and-other-life-things/1012016.md?page=1)