# Battlestar Galactica Tonight! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 9, 2003, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811 "2003-12-09T00:57:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/61 "2003-12-09T23:31:09Z")
My thoughts on episode one Pro’s I like Starbuck , hopefully she can fly a viper with her tits on fire , to match her arogance. Vipers , nice and sleek , the designers did the old girl proud. Adama , what I expect a ships captain to be , I would almost say that JMS had a hand in this guys role/Persona , gonna have to see what he is like around nukes. Homage , as others said so far about memorabilia from the old show , but what I loved the most is the flyby of the vipers and the old music starts a playin 🙂 Overall feel of the show is that its an adult show now , rather than when I was a kid ,and the oohs and ahhs of the original vipers , starbuck flirting , etc. Dropping the egyptian stuff , real distances/ megatonnage . Cons Umm this one is sort of harder cause its half story related , half character plots. Fembot , if she is one. I think she is a cloned human that has memorys downloaded , rather than a cyborg I really have mixed feelings cause I dont think that so far she added anything to the story line , except for maybe a fith coloumm fear , they are everywhere , trust no one. No networks on the galactica , CIC looks like its an american Aircraft carrier out of the sixities ,with grease markers and rulers , cause the cylons are exceptionally good at cyber warfare. That one bothers me ,cause while I can understand the reasoning , you just don’t give up tools , you improve them, or keep the grease pens in a drawer just in case. The reaction times of close in defenses against incoming missiles alone ,demands lots of networked computers , while the cylon was only able to fire off 3 missiles , in real life , you want to surge the battlespace with lots and lots and lots of vampires , drones , decoys etc. Did not like the next generation of cylon warrior , those things looked evil , which may have been the point, but its kind of odd for a computer based cyborg race , to adopt a human type meme on storm troopers, who knows {shrug} Do All Crew Chief. This guy was all over the place , but what bothered me ,was that for all the shows attempt to show a credible military force , this guy was supposedly in charge of DC or damage control. While during a major plot element he was conferring with another officer , there did not seem to be the idea that the Exec would delegate to a commisioned officer ,who would then order the chief to do what needed to be done, it seemed like there was a disconnect there. That idiot president , but have to wait till later on to see what exactly she brings to the table , so this one could go yay or nay. Damm , if a teddy bear gets snuffed tonight , I am gonna go looking for JMS in the credits 🙂 Declan ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/62 "2003-12-09T23:40:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Curate \* > \*\*ILike the Star Trek universe, the Galactica does seem a little top-heavy with officers. Also, figuring out how the ranks line up is a little confusing. here’s how it seems to me, based on ranks I heard used last night: Chief (the only enlisted rank I noticed), Lieutenant, Captain, Colonel, Commander, Admiral, Secretary of Education. > > I do kind of miss the old lumpy Galactica, though. Did I miss a part in which other battlestars were referred to by name? In the original series I seem to remember Pegasus, Atlanica and the improbably-named Pacifica. I like to think that somewhere out there is the battlestar Lusitania. \*\* Actually for once there seemed to be a lot of EM’s , you may have heard Commander adama request something off a specialist, which probably would relate to either airman or seaman or private I liked this cause unlike the original series, which only seemed to have 12 battlestars , this new series has/had 120 battlestars. Names I heard was at least atlantia and columbia among others , no mention of the pegasus yet. The last time the columbia got a mention was on the episode the gun on Ice planet zero. The rank thing is screwed up though, part airforce , part navy. By all respects Col Tighe should out rank adama instead of being XO. Declan ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/63 "2003-12-10T00:03:18Z")
**Declan** , I think the glowing spine (for no good reason) pretty much seals the fact she is a cyborg and not what you suggested in your spoiler box. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/64 "2003-12-10T00:41:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Darkhold \* > \*\ ***Declan** , > > I think the glowing spine (for no good reason) pretty much seals the fact she is a cyborg and not what you suggested in your spoiler box. 😉 \*\* I seen that as well , but I am gonna wait till the episode tonight , just to see whats what. I think that there can be a reasonable explanation for both views, but for now , it could be either as well. Declan ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/65 "2003-12-10T01:59:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kilt-wearin’ man \* > **msmith537** , I don’t remember the original Col. Tigh being anything other than articulate and professional - if a little on the dull side. Certainly none of this “yessa massa” BS…his main job just seemed to be to lean on the opposite arm of Athena’s bridge chair from the one Adama leaned on and stare intently at the tactical screen while commenting on how dire the situation is…kinda like Commander Riker’s job in the first three seasons of _Star Trek: The Next Generation_… \*\* I know…It was the 70’s so I just like remembering Boomer as being more “black” than he was and Col. Tigh as being less so. It’s also unfortunate that since the 70s, the name “Starbuck” has mostly become associated with a coffee. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/66 "2003-12-10T02:17:55Z")
I like the Number Six character. After the baby incident, she looked seriously remorseful. It’s like her Borg, er - Cylon collective, er - God made her a little too human in order to be a truly convincing infiltrator. If and when they manage to sever her connection to the collective, er - break her networked connection to her Cylon Masters/God she’ll be seriously conflicted about who and what she really is. “More human than human” was the old Tyrell company slogan? Speaking of Bladerunner, I’m thinking she’s something between a Replicant and a Terminator style organics over machine endoskeleton type thing. As for the glowing spine, the first thing I thought of (for no good reason) was [this](http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994419). ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/67 "2003-12-10T02:37:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Declan \* > \*\*I think she aspixiated the brat ,rather than snapping the lovable tykes neck > > Declan \*\* After she leaned into the stroller you heard a quiet but unmistakeable snap. Not having had much experience at snapping necks, I don’t know how audible the sound would really be, but I think in light of her earlier comment on how amazing it was that the baby’s neck could support so much weight we were meant to infer that she had broken its neck. Also, if she had left the head in an obviously extreme angle it would have explained the mother’s immediate realization that her child was dead when she looked at it. ---
**Author:** ![CaptBushido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@CaptBushido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptBushido)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/68 "2003-12-10T02:38:32Z")
I still like the show, but barely a quarter of the way into the second part, and the hokey twists are piling up without stop. [spoiler]First off, the Colonial Fleet just leaves huge, expensive ammo dumps sitting in space untended? No maintenance crew, no defenses, nothing? Second: Ah, an explosion sealed a door so completely shut that an entire crew of mechanics can’t open it? Suuuure, that’s believable. And finally, why the hell would the President’s assistant feel the need to to tell her that the little girl’s ship can’t jump? She already made the tough decision to leave those people behind, is any useful purpose served by saying “HEY, MADAME PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW THAT LITTLE GIRL? SHE’S GOING TO DIE… YEP”[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![CaptBushido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@CaptBushido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptBushido)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/69 "2003-12-10T03:30:13Z")
To ameliorate all that, however, the big space battle is FREAKING AWESOME. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/70 "2003-12-10T03:38:54Z")
Gotta say, I’m liking this a lot more than I expected to. I agree the space battle was excellent! ---
**Author:** ![Etherman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/958977/32.png) [@Etherman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Etherman)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/71 "2003-12-10T03:39:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CaptBushido \* > \*\*I still like the show, but barely a quarter of the way into the second part, and the hokey twists are piling up without stop. > > [spoiler]And finally, why the hell would the President’s assistant feel the need to to tell her that the little girl’s ship can’t jump? She already made the tough decision to leave those people behind, is any useful purpose served by saying “HEY, MADAME PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW THAT LITTLE GIRL? SHE’S GOING TO DIE… YEP” \*\* [/spoiler] You know I wondered that at the time, but they seem to be hinting that: He’s another Cylon spy/plant. And that wasn’t just a supply dump, it was frickin _huge_ And on preview I can’t get all the vb to line up right, the first spoiler is quoting \*CaptBushido \* ---
**Author:** ![CaptBushido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@CaptBushido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptBushido)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/72 "2003-12-10T03:45:25Z")
Ooo, wow, plot twist at the end. Fans of the original series: was that part of the original story? ---
**Author:** ![Etherman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/958977/32.png) [@Etherman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Etherman)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/73 "2003-12-10T04:00:20Z")
Awsome battle, and a set up for a series. OK that last twist was messed up, with they Cylons at the station. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/74 "2003-12-10T04:01:48Z")
Overall, I thought it was real good. I was very suspicious considering how cheesily bad the old series was. It was nothing more than a crappy series trying to ride the Star Wars craze. And then you have all the nutcase fans of the old series. Why bother-- why not just create something new? But they did a good job. Looks like it’ll be a serious show. Of course it remains to be seen if the writers can keep it fresh and not have it descend into _24_-like siliness. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/75 "2003-12-10T04:04:29Z")
Anybody spot _Serenity_? ---
**Author:** ![CaptBushido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@CaptBushido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptBushido)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/76 "2003-12-10T04:06:55Z")
Yeah, actually I meant the [spolier]13th tribe went to Earth[/spoiler] plot twist, but that VERY last one was interesting, too. It would be CRUEL of them not to make a series after leaving us hanging with that. ---
**Author:** ![CaptBushido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@CaptBushido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptBushido)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/77 "2003-12-10T04:08:07Z")
Well, dammit. I think everyone here has been watching the show, but just in case, can a mod fix that? ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/78 "2003-12-10T04:08:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LurkMeister \* > \*\*After she leaned into the stroller you heard a quiet but unmistakeable snap. Not having had much experience at snapping necks, I don’t know how audible the sound would really be, but I think in light of her earlier comment on how amazing it was that the baby’s neck could support so much weight we were meant to infer that she had broken its neck. Also, if she had left the head in an obviously extreme angle it would have explained the mother’s immediate realization that her child was dead when she looked at it. \*\* Its being repeated on Sunday at 7 , so I shall have to re-watch that part. Since I never heard that snap, the only thing that I heard was the mother saying the baby was not breathing, if the kids neck had been snapped she may have said something along the lines of my baby has been murdered Declan ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/79 "2003-12-10T04:10:56Z")
Ahhh, I suck. I wasn’t paying attention in the very last scene with the cylons. Can someone please tell me what heppened? ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/80 "2003-12-10T04:11:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CaptBushido \* > \*\*To ameliorate all that, however, the big space battle is FREAKING AWESOME. \*\* I gotta say the silence of the whole thing spoiled it for me , while I like the idea that space is vaccum and you can’t hear anything , the music was sub-par for that. Contrast it with some of the Babylon 5 battles ,and the christopher franke music was what made it come alive , an audio visual extravaganza. They had the concept perfect for the agro ship and the little girl with the raggedy ann doll, but screwed the pooch on the battle go figure Declan [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811.md?page=5)