# Battlestar Galactica Tonight!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 9, 2003, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811 "2003-12-09T00:57:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/81 "2003-12-10T04:14:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CaptBushido \*  
> \*\*Yeah, actually I meant the
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> 13th tribe went to Earth
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> plot twist, but that VERY last one was interesting, too. It would be CRUEL of them not to make a series after leaving us hanging with that. \*\*

No the original series had earth as the destination , not a desparate gamble to keep the crew and refugees from going bug eyed over a long voyage.

Declan

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**Author:** ![sunfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sunfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunfish)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/82 "2003-12-10T04:17:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Revtim \*  
> \*\*Ahhh, I suck. I wasn’t paying attention in the very last scene with the cylons. Can someone please tell me what heppened? \*\*

The guy left behind at the munitions depot turns out to be one of the Cylon models, and we discover that Boomer on the Galactica is a Cylon sleeper agent.

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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/83 "2003-12-10T04:19:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Revtim \*  
> \*\*Ahhh, I suck. I wasn’t paying attention in the very last scene with the cylons. Can someone please tell me what heppened? \*\*

There was originally 12 templates for the cylon clones , one of them was boomer

Declan

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/84 "2003-12-10T04:22:35Z")

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Thanks guys!

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/85 "2003-12-10T04:23:50Z")

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or gals, whichever the case may be.

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**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/86 "2003-12-10T04:27:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Revtim \*  
> \*\*Ahhh, I suck. I wasn’t paying attention in the very last scene with the cylons. Can someone please tell me what heppened? \*\*

The Asian chick, (Boomer?), is a farking Cylon. BTW, so was the guy they left to die on the ammo dump.

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**Author:** ![MaddyStrut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@MaddyStrut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaddyStrut)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/87 "2003-12-10T04:42:10Z")

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Okay, the darn dogs were barking and I missed a crucial part at the end:

Who sent Adama the note that there were 12 cylon models and how the heck did they find that out?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/88 "2003-12-10T04:54:22Z")

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So, is it my imagination or is the Madame Secretary none other than Stands With A Fist? “You…Here… GGGGGoood”

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**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/89 "2003-12-10T04:55:22Z")

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\*Originally posted by Declan \*  
\*\*Its being repeated on Sunday at 7 , so I shall have to re-watch that part. Since I never heard that snap, the only thing that I heard was the mother saying the baby was not breathing, if the kids neck had been snapped she may have said something along the lines of my baby has been murdered

When you watch it, do it with the closed captions turned on. When I saw it last night, it very clearly identified the sound effect of the baby’s neck being snapped.

Oh, and I liked the miniseries overall. Nicely done.

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/90 "2003-12-10T04:58:30Z")

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Great episode. The big space battle was astounding. And I loved the civilizan ships too. The one with the trees, the one that looked like a cargo-container carrier. Just good stuff.

At the end, my reaction: HOLY SHIT! BOOMER?!?!?!? No way! Talk about a plot twist!

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**Author:** ![Curate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Curate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Curate)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/91 "2003-12-10T05:09:34Z")

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I was hoping that somebody would refer to the greenhouse ship as the Valley Forge. It would have been a great cameo opportunity for Bruce Dern.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/92 "2003-12-10T05:11:11Z")

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So, Boomer was one of those “sleeper” Cylons that don’t even know they are a Cylon?

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**Author:** ![Etherman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/958977/32.png) [@Etherman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Etherman)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/93 "2003-12-10T05:22:56Z")

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**Revtim**  
I think that is what they are trying to say, or else she is a deep cover agent.  
Ok so:

[spoiler]  
are there 12 of each kind of human appearing Cylon: i/e 12 sexbots, 12 Boomers, etc.

Or are there an unlimited number of the 12 different models?

And whats with the number 12? 12 colonies, 12 origional ships, ~120 in the fleet at the start of the series, 12 Cylons [/spoiler]

If you’re still up and can get it, the battle is coming up again on the second showing.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/94 "2003-12-10T05:26:14Z")

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“They better start having babies.”  
“Is that an order?”

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/95 "2003-12-10T05:46:34Z")

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Etherman

There are 12 flavors of Cylon, lots of each flavor.

Interestingly enough, they don’t seem to share a networked Borg-like hive mind.

The battle definitely was cool. Kind of reminded me of Star Wars back when it used to be about the wars.  
This was definitely set up as a TV pilot. I would not be surprised if they make a new series.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/96 "2003-12-10T05:51:30Z")

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> Great episode. The big space battle was astounding. And I loved the civilizan ships too. The one with the trees, the one that looked like a cargo-container carrier. Just good stuff.

Just wanted to mention, the cargo carrier was patterned after a vessel prominent in the credits sequence of the original series. There was a whale-shaped passenger liner in the ‘jump’ sequence that was recognizable from the old series as well.

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/97 "2003-12-10T05:55:09Z")

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From a QnA on the site:

Do you want to make this into an ongoing series, and under what circumstances would you?

The intention, from the very beginning, was to create a large-scale, four-hour PILOT to launch a new Battlestar Galactica television series. I am thrilled at what we’re accomplishing, pleasantly shocked at how well many things have already come together, and beyond proud of the job Michael Rymer is doing with the cast and everything I’ve seen so far. I think the miniseries will stand on its own as a thrilling piece of entertainment and a worthy addition to the Battlestar Galactica canon. However, to be completely honest, if this isn’t launched into a weekly series, I’d be disappointed. A series is — and always was — the central goal.

> **[Scifi.com](https://www.syfy.com/scifi/battlestar/askdavid/050503.html)**
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> Visit Syfy.com

I was happy to see the XO come into his own. They could’ve very easily made him an incompetent bad officer. Also, he and Starbuck having their little bickering at the end, I’m glad that wasn’t resolved with some happy-crappy nonsense.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/98 "2003-12-10T06:29:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by GMRyujin \*  
> \*\*I was happy to see the XO come into his own. They could’ve very easily made him an incompetent bad officer. Also, he and Starbuck having their little bickering at the end, I’m glad that wasn’t resolved with some happy-crappy nonsense. \*\*

Wow. Starbuck is one big, smelly insubordinate I wanna smack that stupid ass smirk off your face chewing on a big fat penis envy cigar because she really wants to be chewing on a real cock but not in a good way Charlie Uniform November Tango.

And the twist at the end! Cool. A re-imagining I approve of.

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**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/99 "2003-12-10T08:22:16Z")

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I had a different take on the baby scene. After a bit of thought, I think it was meant to be an act of kindness in a machine brain sort of way. When the baby is crying, she mentions how in a few hours there will be nothing to cry about. Then, when the mother is away, does the job. She figures the baby is going to die in the attack so a quick snap and it won’t have to suffer.

Having watched the entire original BSG and BSG 1980(argh, that sucked), I find this one much better. In the original, the government was made out to be a bunch of peace loving hippie idiots. They forced the Battlestars to assemble at the peace ceremony over the objections of the military. Even after almost the entire fleet and the colonies were destroyed because of their stupidity, they spent the rest of the series trying to get Adama to make bad decisions, constantly giving him grief. The message really boiled down to, Military smart, civilian government stupid. In this one, neither the government or military is at fault. They just get blind-sided by the Cylons in a sneak attack. If anything, the military is made out a bit badly in the new one as the President is trying to save everyone while the military is intent on going to fight a lost cause.

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> \*Originally posted by levdrakon \*  
> \*\*Wow. Starbuck is one big, smelly insubordinate I wanna smack that stupid ass smirk off your face chewing on a big fat penis envy cigar because she really wants to be chewing on a real cock but not in a good way Charlie Uniform November Tango.
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> And the twist at the end! Cool. A re-imagining I approve of. \*\*

Man, you’ve got real issues with women.

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**Author:** ![Nurobath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Nurobath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nurobath)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/battlestar-galactica-tonight/217811/100 "2003-12-10T08:24:29Z")

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Yes, very nicely done all around I think. I think that they did a very good job at capturing the "we have to do what we can to save the species " thing.

when all the civillian ships with FLT took off and left the others behind was very well done. I got a good sense of desparation and sadness from that whole scene. When the Cylons showed up and launched the missles…damn.

I’m glad that they’re not holding back (see spolier)…one really does get the feeling that the end is near for the humans.

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