# BBC/RP pronunciation of "Wednesday"

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**Created:** [December 6, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbc-rp-pronunciation-of-wednesday/429038 "2007-12-06T16:24:08Z")\
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I’ve gotten used to the oddities of British pronunciation while listening to BBC World News stores; leftenant, millertree, Al Kayeeda, and so on. Not too long ago, though, I heard an announcer pronounce the word “Wednesday” – the middle day of the week – as “wed-NISS-day”. I thought I was imagining it, but she said it more than once.

C’mon … do people actually pronounce Wednesday this way?

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Until a native speaks up. . .

The OED says that the “uncontracted” pronunciation is “not uncommon in the northern and north midland counties. The uncontracted version is attested from the 15th century.”

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The pronunciation I associate with the B.B.C. is

wEd@nzdI - more like “WED-@nz-di”

This one always struck me as odd, because it seem to be transposing “nes” into “ens.”

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Neither I nor anyone I know says anything other than “Wensday”. I’ve heard the “uncontracted” pronunciation on TV/radio, but have always assumed this was a modern affectation due to the influence of the spelling. I’m surprised to hear the OED disagrees.

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I listen to the BBC quite a bit and have never personally heard the affected three-syllable pronunciation of that day of the week (not to say it doesn’t happen). I rather enjoy when they refer to the metal “Al you MIN you mum” or the Central American country “Nick ah RAG you ah,” though.

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
I rather enjoy when they refer to the metal “Al you MIN you mum”…  
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Yeah, well yo’ momma to you too. 🙂

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
“Al you MIN you mum”  
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“al you MINI um”, isn’t it?

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
I listen to the BBC quite a bit and have never personally heard the affected three-syllable pronunciation of that day of the week (not to say it doesn’t happen).  
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I’m pretty sure Frank Muir and Dennis Norden always said WED-enz-dee.

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On “Top Gear” the other day, Clarkson mentioned that the frame of a certain car was “made from _aluminum_, whatever that is”. Loved that he could poke fun at aluminium.

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[QUOTE=acsenray]  
“al you MINI um”, isn’t it?  
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Al - you - MIN - yuhm, generally. **Elendil’s Heir** inserted an extra “m”. We don’t pronounce it _that_ weirdly. (In any case, it’s spelt differently here, and we pronounce it as we spell it, Americans pronounce it as they spell it; seems fair enough to me!)

As for “Wednesday”, I do kind of pronounce the “d”, but only as a semi-swallowed glottal stop: “We(d)'ns-day”. It’s only two syllables, but the first has a sort of flap of the tongue against the palate to give lip service (as it were) to the d.

According to my dictionary, the proper British pronounciation is “WENZ-dee”, with an unstressed “dee” for the “day” part of all days of the week (MUN-dee, TYOOZ-dee etc), but I think that is becoming less common these days. I don’t use it. And most people I know say something like “Chooseday” rather than “Tuesday”…

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Only ever pronounce is “wenzdee”. Native of a ``northern county".

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Aw, don’t be so hard on the 3-syllable Wednesdayers. The day is named for the poor, old, nearly-forgotten unemployed god Wodin. Maybe it brightens ol’ Wode’s eye a little to hear somebody say it that way. :rolleyes: :dubious:

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
I listen to the BBC quite a bit and have never personally heard the affected three-syllable pronunciation of that day of the week (not to say it doesn’t happen). I rather enjoy when they refer to the metal “Al you MIN you mum” or the Central American country “Nick ah RAG you ah,” though.  
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Not to mention “Jag-you-are”.

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
I listen to the BBC quite a bit and have never personally heard the affected three-syllable pronunciation of that day of the week (not to say it doesn’t happen). I rather enjoy when they refer to the metal “Al you MIN you mum” or the Central American country “Nick ah RAG you ah,” though.  
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My favorite, too. Especially when combined with the capitol city: muh-NA-gyu-uh, sometimes muh-NA-gyu-ar.

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[QUOTE=acsenray]  
“al you MINI um”, isn’t it?  
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But to be far, they spell it differently. There is an extra “i” in the British version, right?

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[QUOTE=Chefguy]  
Not to mention “Jag-you-are”.  
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As with days of the week, there’s only two syllables (yes, that includes Saturday, but that might just be me 😉 ). “Jag-wah” is perhaps the best representation. Otherwise, how could you pronounce ‘Jag’?

Re. Aluminum/Aluminium: I can’t be bothered to find the links, I’ve done it too often before, but there’s an interesting history of how different words came to be used in different countries.

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[QUOTE=AskNott]  
Aw, don’t be so hard on the 3-syllable Wednesdayers. The day is named for the poor, old, nearly-forgotten unemployed god Wodin. Maybe it brightens ol’ Wode’s eye a little to hear somebody say it that way. :rolleyes: :dubious:  
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Odin. Hardly the least-known of the Norse gods, I’d say.

FTR, I pronounce the D most to the time. Wed ‘n’ sday - the N as in Fish ‘n’ chips

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[QUOTE=GorillaMan]  
As with days of the week, there’s only two syllables (yes, that includes Saturday, but that might just be me 😉 ). “Jag-wah” is perhaps the best representation. Otherwise, how could you pronounce ‘Jag’?

Re. Aluminum/Aluminium: I can’t be bothered to find the links, I’ve done it too often before, but there’s an interesting history of how different words came to be used in different countries.  
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Not everyone over there does it, but how do people get from “house” to “hice”? Is it just an affectation by the toffs?

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The BBC is not quite as staid as it used to be. You will hear a fair amount of regional accents these days, although I believe there is a reference book for unusual names of places and people.

One of my favourites from years ago was listening to newsreaders butchering the name of the \*\*Reverend Ndabaninge Sithole \*\*

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[QUOTE=Chefguy]  
Not everyone over there does it, but how do people get from “house” to “hice”? Is it just an affectation by the toffs?  
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Yes, that’s definitely an upper-class stereotypical thing. Made fun of to great effect in Wallace and Gromit’s _The Curse of the Were-Rabbit_;

**Lady Tottington** : [over the phone] It’s a disaster. I have the most terrible rabbit problem. The competition’s only days away. You simply have to do something.  
**Wallace** : Certainly, Ma’am.  
**Wallace** : [Aside, to Gromit] I think we’re about to go up in the world, lad.  
**Wallace** : [Back on phone] Just stay right where you are, Your Ladyship, and we’ll be with you in an…  
[hits the control panel and gets dragged up through the ceiling]  
**Wallace** : Ahhhh!!!  
**Lady Tottington** : In an hour? But I can’t wait an hour. I have a major infestation. Hello? Hello?

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