# BBC's Sherlock on PBS \[OPEN SPOILERS\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 25, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246 "2010-10-25T03:14:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/61 "2010-10-30T20:32:32Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > One more nice thing about this version, is that Lastrade and Watson are both smart, capable human beings. In some versions, I would be surprised if they could wipe their own bottoms without assistance. Right. I also liked that Holmes and Watson were almost instantly tight with each other. I loved the episode. This is one of those rare shows I hope to watch again. #2 tomorrow night. 🙂 I wish american tv could do stuff like this. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/62 "2010-10-30T22:07:13Z")
> [@mangeorge](#): > > I wish american tv could do stuff like this. Woah, hold on! American TV is hitting it out the park right now. It’s mostly HBO, but by fuck there’s a load, an absolute fucking load, of great stuff. A golden age. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/63 "2010-10-30T23:32:06Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Woah, hold on! American TV is hitting it out the park right now. It’s mostly HBO, but by fuck there’s a load, an absolute fucking load, of great stuff. A golden age. Yeah, freakin’ baseball. 😉 Okay, my statement isn’t fair. I don’t have cable. I had it disconnected years ago in a fit of rage after watching Bill O’Reilly followed by Sean Hannity then topped off by Ann Coulter. Maybe not in that order. Now I got a friggen headache. :mad: Are they who you’re talking about? Ow ow ow! Okay, there is PBS, but a lot of their stuff i from elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/64 "2010-10-31T00:17:49Z")
> [@PoorYorick](#): > > The way I explained it to myself was: 1) The location of the aneurysm in his brain made it impossible for the surgeon to get to without killing the patient, and 2) He never told the cab company about his aneurysm or his doctor about his driving a cab. Well, they don’t treat aneurisms with trepanation anymore; I had one stented and clipped last year. They use a process called “coiling” where they go in through an artery in the thigh, thread it up the carotid and into the brain. Not sure how one location would be more “impossible” than another in this manner; if blood flows into it, it should be reachable. And with the UK’s sweet public health system, the cabbie wouldn’t even have to go out of pocket! ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/65 "2010-10-31T00:23:14Z")
> [@mangeorge](#): > > Yeah, freakin’ baseball. 😉 > Okay, my statement isn’t fair. I don’t have cable. I had it disconnected years ago in a fit of rage after watching Bill O’Reilly followed by Sean Hannity then topped off by Ann Coulter. > Maybe not in that order. Now I got a friggen headache. :mad: > Are they who you’re talking about? > Ow ow ow! > Okay, there is PBS, but a lot of their stuff i from elsewhere. There is nothing better than The Wire or The Sopranos. Or Cheers or Frasier or Hill Street Blues. Or NYPD Blue, or The Simpsons or South Park. There is one thing you Yanks do, amazingly well, and that is great telly. Or BSG or the X-Files or the West Wing. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/66 "2010-10-31T00:25:06Z")
> [@Krokodil](#): > > And with the UK’s sweet public health system, the cabbie wouldn’t even have to go out of pocket! Shhh. You’re not supposed to say that! ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/67 "2010-10-31T00:41:55Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > There is nothing better than Hill Street Blues. Or NYPD Blue. There is one thing you Yanks do, amazingly well, and that is great telly. Or BSG or the X-Files. Snipped mucho by me. _Prime Suspect_ was at least a notch above any of those cop shows I left in your post. I haven’t watched my set of The Sopranos yet. I’ll give you some of the comedy stuff, esp The Simpsons. We have nothing of the quality of the subject of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/68 "2010-11-08T15:10:18Z")
PBS has only the three episodes listed. Is that all? The series ends on a cliffhanger? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/69 "2010-11-08T15:20:11Z")
That’s all that was made by the BBC, although a second series is set to air a year from now. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/70 "2010-11-08T16:03:12Z")
Will they re-run these three? I missed last night’s. Fell asleep. I guess all three will be available on DVD. That, with “bonus” stuff, would be great. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/71 "2010-11-08T16:09:56Z")
Available Nov 9, [all three](http://www.amazon.com/Sherlock-Season-One-Benedict-Cumberbatch/dp/B004132HZS/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1289232247&sr=8-2-fkmr0). $25. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/72 "2010-11-08T16:22:07Z")
Personally, I loved the first one basically just because it was hilarious. Numbers 2 and 3 were more standard Sherlock Holmes and I couldn’t help feeling like I was watching low-rent versions of Hugh Laurie and Robert Sean Leonard going about run of the mill mysteries. The actors, stories, and direction of the series lent itself better to comedy than a serious format. Hopefully when they make more episodes, they’ll make them more like a Study in Pink. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/73 "2010-11-08T16:57:55Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > Did anybody but me notice the one scene where Sherlock is squatting in his chair? I wonder if the screenwriters are Death Note fans or if this was just a coincidence? Do you mean the way he crosses his legs and settles into a chair? Jeremy Brett did this in the Granada Television version… I think Cumberbatch definitely took a lot of acting cues from Brett. The way he says “MRS. HUDSON!” sounds exactly like Brett, and I noticed in the final episode, at least, that he does the little “quick smile” thing that Brett did. I’m not familiar with any other versions of Sherlock Holmes, tho. Brett may have taken those things from previous portrayals or they may have been in the books. I really like this series! ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/74 "2010-11-08T17:02:57Z")
I was pretty happy with the series, and would love to see more, but I thought [SPOILER]Moriarty’s reveal was a bit weak. I would’ve preferred that we’d seen him earlier than that very episode. We didn’t see him in the two previous episodes, did we? And I gotta say, I got very excited when it looked, however briefly, that Watson was Moriarty. Yeah, it would’ve been a huge change, but dammit it would’ve been cool if that had been true.[/SPOILER] ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/75 "2010-11-08T17:42:26Z")
I had a really hard time following episode three, and even dozed a couple of times. What was with the golem? Where did he come from? ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/76 "2010-11-08T17:47:32Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I had a really hard time following episode three, and even dozed a couple of times. What was with the golem? Where did he come from? He’s an assassin who was hired by the gallery owner (at Moriarty’s behest, I believe) to kill the security guard who found out that the painting was a fake. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/77 "2010-11-08T17:59:34Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > He’s an assassin who was hired by the gallery owner (at Moriarty’s behest, I believe) to kill the security guard who found out that the painting was a fake. I must have dozed longer than I thought. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/78 "2010-11-08T22:58:48Z")
USA dopers: Streaming shows available [here](http://video.pbs.org/video/1619685888/). BTW, Brit-dopers: what is Cummings’ accent? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/79 "2010-11-08T23:01:07Z")
Alan Cummings is Scottish. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/80 "2010-11-08T23:02:36Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > Alan Cummings is Scottish. Wow. I actually used to have a good ear for accents. Maybe it’s limited to USA now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246.md?page=5)