# BBC's Sherlock on PBS \[OPEN SPOILERS\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 25, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246 "2010-10-25T03:14:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/81 "2010-11-08T23:07:37Z")
I wouldn’t be too hard on yourself. There seems to be a pretty wide variety of Scottish accents. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/82 "2010-11-08T23:17:23Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > USA dopers: Streaming shows available [here](http://video.pbs.org/video/1619685888/). > > BTW, Brit-dopers: what is Cummings’ accent? Thanks. I’m getting old tho, and occasionally need to say “what?”. Hence the DVD, which has a “huh” button. BTW; I didn’t realize that **House** , on _House_, is British. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/83 "2010-11-08T23:19:32Z")
Anyone who hasn’t seen Hugh Laurie’s tour-de-force performances on _Jeeves & Wooster_ and _Blackadder_ should be banned from watching him in anything else. ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/84 "2010-11-09T00:03:01Z")
> [@mangeorge](#): > > BTW; I didn’t realize that **House** , on _House_, is British. He isn’t. Hugh Laurie’s English – House is American. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/85 "2010-11-09T00:09:41Z")
> [@mangeorge](#): > > We have nothing of the quality of the subject of this thread. Then you haven’t seen _The Wire_. Or _Breaking Bad_. Or _The Shield_. Don’t get me wrong, I like _Sherlock_ just fine. But those shows are easily its equal, if not better. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/86 "2010-11-09T00:52:37Z")
> [@WotNot](#): > > He isn’t. Hugh Laurie’s English – House is American. Hoboy. \<“shake head in wonder” smiley thatwe don’t have\> Or; I see he fooled you too! ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/87 "2010-11-09T01:15:35Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Then you haven’t seen _The Wire_. Or _Breaking Bad_. Or _The Shield_. > > Don’t get me wrong, I like _Sherlock_ just fine. But those shows are easily its equal, if not better. I think somebody already posted something like that. Anyway; I don’t have cable because of Bill O’Reilly. There’s your american tv for you. 😉 Him and his girlfriend, Sean Hannity. Maybe it’s the commercials? But I have seen _The Shield_ once or twice. Lotsa violence. I have no problem with that. It just doesn’t interest me. Well, except for the _Kill Bill_ movie. Is a two-parter one movie, or two? ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/88 "2010-11-09T01:24:46Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > Anyone who hasn’t seen Hugh Laurie’s tour-de-force performances on _Jeeves & Wooster_ and _Blackadder_ should be banned from watching him in anything else. No! Don’t say that! My only access to british tv is PBS, so I have a good excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/89 "2010-11-09T03:28:41Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > Wow. I actually used to have a good ear for accents. Maybe it’s limited to USA now. It’s very pronounced when he says the word “mystery”. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/90 "2010-11-09T17:28:36Z")
> [@mangeorge](#): > > No! Don’t say that! My only access to british tv is PBS, so I have a good excuse. Netflix won’t deliver? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/91 "2010-11-10T00:28:11Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > Netflix won’t deliver? 😉 They _will_. But they want you to _pay_. Cable companies, etc in the US are trying hard to get rid of over-the-air television. I don’t want to encourage them. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/92 "2010-11-10T14:57:14Z")
> [@mangeorge](#): > > They _will_. But they want you to _pay_. > Cable companies, etc in the US are trying hard to get rid of over-the-air television. > I don’t want to encourage them. If you can finagle up some excuse that justifies ordering \*Blackadder \*it will be very well worth it. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/93 "2010-11-10T16:20:57Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > If you can finagle up some excuse that justifies ordering \*Blackadder \*it will be very well worth it. I’ve seen a couple episodes. Quite funny. I looked in itunes and there’s a lot. The show has been around for about a million years, and like _Monty Python_, would probably best viewed from a specific starting point. All I have so far is “I smell something fishy”. 😛 So, where should I begin my Black Adder adventure? I’d like to watch it on my iPad so’s I could annoy the servers in my favorite coffee shop/cafe. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/94 "2010-11-10T17:25:11Z")
> [@mangeorge](#): > > So, where should I begin my Black Adder adventure? I’d like to watch it on my iPad so’s I could annoy the servers in my favorite coffee shop/cafe. > Thanks The first season has a different tone (and in part writers) from the subsequent three, and it’s not as good imo. I’d start with Blackadder II, and then go in order and watch the first after Blackadder Goes Forth. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/95 "2010-11-10T18:34:03Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > The first season has a different tone (and in part writers) from the subsequent three, and it’s not as good imo. I’d start with Blackadder II, and then go in order and watch the first after Blackadder Goes Forth. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/96 "2010-11-10T19:39:35Z")
Libraries have DVDs now. I own Blackadder, but I saw Jeeves and Wooster by checking them out from the library. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/97 "2010-11-10T22:30:25Z")
Back to SHERLOCK, I was disappointed with Episode 3, “The Great Game.” Regarding the painting, I thought it was ridiculous that anyone would think that an artist paints an exact night sky. The presence or absence of a star in a painting means nothing. … and yet the whole sub-plot hinged on that. Regarding the “game” in general, it made no sense to me. Moriarty sets up the game to distract Sherlock from the Bruce-Partington information. Then, he doesn’t want that information? So, why set up the game at all? Moriarty’s success as a “criminal consultant” depends on his being out of the spotlight. All the “game” does is to put Moriarty IN the spotlight… and double-cross some of the people who had used his services in the past. If he hadn’t set up the game, Sherlock wouldn’t have known of Moriarty’s existence. The whole thing seems self-defeating. Plus, I was annoyed at the ending being a cliff-hanger that we have to wait, what, for a year or more for resolution? It’s bad enough when regular series do that, and we have to wait for four or five months! ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/98 "2010-11-10T23:29:57Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > Plus, I was annoyed at the ending being a cliff-hanger that we have to wait, what, for a year or more for resolution? It’s bad enough when regular series do that, and we have to wait for four or five months! You know the old saying: Britons think 100 miles is a long way, Americans think 100 years is a long time. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/99 "2010-11-11T15:25:19Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > The first season has a different tone (and in part writers) from the subsequent three, and it’s not as good imo. I’d start with Blackadder II, and then go in order and watch the first after Blackadder Goes Forth. What he said, exactly. Except skipping the first altogether wouldn’t be all that bad of an idea. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246/100 "2010-11-11T15:33:13Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > Back to SHERLOCK, I was disappointed with Episode 3, “The Great Game.” > > Regarding the painting, I thought it was ridiculous that anyone would think that an artist paints an exact night sky. The presence or absence of a star in a painting means nothing. … and yet the whole sub-plot hinged on that. Even more ridiculous: Watson and Holmes had seperately established (and shared with each other) that a) the dead guard knew nothing about art and b) the dead guard was a keen amateur astronomer. They find that the dead guard contacted a professor who’s rendez-vous of choice was a planetarium. Holmes is later found staring in great detail at the painting. But it needs a high-pressure countdown for him to realise that the guard spotted something about astronomy, not art, and that this might be related to the giant exploding star in the middle of the painting. I mean, come on. How much more obvious can it get? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bbcs-sherlock-on-pbs-open-spoilers/558246.md?page=6)