# BCS bowls (5 Games - 10 Teams -- Pick Teams to LOSE)

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 28, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368 "2013-12-28T20:13:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/1 "2013-12-28T20:13:55Z")

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Rose Bowl  
Pasadena, Calif. - 5 p.m. ET, Jan. 1  
Michigan State vs. Stanford

Fiesta Bowl  
Glendale, Ariz. - 8:30 p.m. ET, Jan. 1  
Baylor vs. Central Florida

Sugar Bowl  
New Orleans, La. - 8:30 p.m. ET, Jan. 2  
Alabama vs. Oklahoma

Orange Bowl  
Miami, Fla. - 8:30 p.m. ET, Jan. 3  
Clemson vs. Ohio State

BCS title game  
Pasadena, Calif. - 8:30 p.m. ET, Jan. 6  
Florida State vs. Auburn

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/2 "2013-12-28T21:13:23Z")

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Finally a pool I can win. I am in!!

Anyone remember Leonard Postero who had a weekly radio program on handicapping College F-Ball game and penned a newsletter called _Leonard’s Losers_? I think Leonard would have done quite well with WEB-CASTing his show.

I hadn’t thought of him in years and looked in him on [wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Postero). I met him one time, back in the 1980’s

It looks like Leonard Losers died about 10 years ago but has been reincarnated into [Stanley Stinkers](http://www.stanleysstinkers.com/).

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/3 "2013-12-28T21:27:41Z")

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Stupid ESPN only games! I dumped cable due to the hugely excessive costs here. I’m loving the antenna, but I do wish more games were on the Big 3 (or 4) networks. This ESPN, ESPN2 and NFL Network crap sucks. On my old cable subscription, I had to pay for the higher tiers of service to get those channels.

I’ll be able to watch online thru various sources, but it still stinks imho. YMMV!

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/4 "2013-12-28T21:29:25Z")

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Pulling for FSU, btw. Sorry, Auburners

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/5 "2013-12-28T23:04:08Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
>
> Pulling for FSU, btw. Sorry, Auburners

That’s a reasonable pick, but I hope you’re wrong on it! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/6 "2013-12-28T23:15:35Z")

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Here’s a starting array:

```auto

======================================================================================

                             ==================================================================================== 
                             MichSt Stanford Baylor CentFla Alabama Oklahoma Clemson OhioSt FlaSt Auburn
                             ==================================================================================== 
  
Munch 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn 
Nauplius 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn
NoClueBoy 5 MichSt CentFla Alabama Clemson Auburn
notfrommensa 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
USCDiver 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn 
Zakalwe 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
Zeldar 5 Stanford CentFla Alabama Clemson FlaSt
 
======================== ====================================================================================
    7 35 6 1 0 7 2 5 4 3 1 6 /35

======================================================================================

```

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/7 "2013-12-29T00:42:42Z")

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I’m in.

My picks to lose are:

Michigan State  
UCF  
Oklahoma  
Clemson  
Auburn

I have money on the FSU game in two ways: I have them to win the game and I bet on them back in September to win the championship (I got 9-1 odds).

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/8 "2013-12-29T01:00:56Z")

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I’m in, with that yankee MSU, Central Florida, Oklahoma (cuz Roll Tide!), Ohio State, and Florida State to lose. It’s worth dealing with gloating Damn War Eagles to continue the SEC streak.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/9 "2013-12-29T14:59:38Z")

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Updated array:

```auto

======================================================================================

                             ==================================================================================== 
                             MichSt Stanford Baylor CentFla Alabama Oklahoma Clemson OhioSt FlaSt Auburn
                             ==================================================================================== 

armedmonkey 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt FlaSt   
Munch 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn 
Nauplius 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn
NoClueBoy 5 MichSt CentFla Alabama Clemson Auburn
notfrommensa 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
Oakminster 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt FlaSt        
Snowboarder Bo 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
swampbear 5 Stanford CentFla Oklahoma Clemson FlaSt 
USCDiver 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn 
Zakalwe 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
Zeldar 5 Stanford CentFla Alabama Clemson FlaSt
 
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   11 55 9 2 0 11 2 9 6 5 4 7 /55

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```

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/10 "2013-12-30T04:25:09Z")

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The toughest game for me to pick was Stanford vs. Michigan State. They’re both physical teams with strong defenses. On that game, I guessed.

The easiest game to pick was Alabama, who are just waaay better than Oklahoma.

And Auburn needed too much luck to get to the BCS game. This week, their luck runs out.

After that, I went with my long-started bowl theorem: bet against the team that’s pissed off it isn’t in a much better bowl, especially when it’s facing a team that’s happy to be there.

Hence, Baylor and Ohio State (who thought, not long ago, they might be in the BCS game) go down. And if Dabo Swinney wants the Texas job, he’ll pile on the points.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/11 "2013-12-30T14:05:18Z")

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I see it took a couple of days for the SEC fanboyz to show, but I knew they’d get here eventually…

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/12 "2013-12-30T23:41:38Z")

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14 people picked losers for games 1 and 2

13 people picked losers for Game 3

12 people picked losers for Games 4 and 5.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/13 "2013-12-31T00:01:06Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
>
> 14 people picked losers for games 1 and 2
> 
> 13 people picked losers for Game 3
> 
> 12 people picked losers for Games 4 and 5.

Latest array update:

```auto

======================================================================================

                             ==================================================================================== 
                             MichSt Stanford Baylor CentFla Alabama Oklahoma Clemson OhioSt FlaSt Auburn
                             ==================================================================================== 

armedmonkey 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt FlaSt   
Munch 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn 
Nauplius 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn
NoClueBoy 5 MichSt CentFla Alabama Clemson Auburn
notfrommensa 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
Oakminster 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt FlaSt        
Snowboarder Bo 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
swampbear 5 Stanford CentFla Oklahoma Clemson FlaSt 
Typo Negative 5 MichSt Stanford Baylor CentFla Clemson   
USCDiver 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn 
Zakalwe 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
Zeldar 5 Stanford CentFla Alabama Clemson FlaSt
zoog 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson FlaSt   
 
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   13 65 11 3 1 13 2 10 8 5 5 7 /65

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```

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/14 "2013-12-31T00:54:46Z")

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**TypO Negative** wanted to hedge his bets by picking Michigan State and Stanford and Baylor and Central Florida.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/15 "2013-12-31T00:56:00Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
>
> **TypO Negative** wanted to hedge his bets by picking Michigan State and Stanford and Baylor and Central Florida.

The perils of multiple choice polls for this sort of thing. Oh, well…

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/16 "2013-12-31T04:21:47Z")

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Oklahoma currently holds that “championship belt” which they won off the Cowboys who had just stolen it from Baylor: I fully expect it to end up in the hands of the Tide – nice to see it keep changing hands after Baylor held onto it for so long.

And Auburn is just on too much of a lucky streak right now, they will win in their usual odd fashion, I think.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/17 "2013-12-31T05:02:06Z")

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Update. Looking good!

```auto

======================================================================================

                             ==================================================================================== 
                             MichSt Stanford Baylor CentFla Alabama Oklahoma Clemson OhioSt FlaSt Auburn
                             ==================================================================================== 

armedmonkey 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt FlaSt   
DMC 5 MichSt CentFla Alabama Clemson Auburn
For You 5 Stanford CentFla Oklahoma Clemson FlaSt   
Munch 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn 
Nauplius 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn
NoClueBoy 5 MichSt CentFla Alabama Clemson Auburn
notfrommensa 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
Oakminster 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt FlaSt        
Snowboarder Bo 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
swampbear 5 Stanford CentFla Oklahoma Clemson FlaSt 
Typo Negative 5 MichSt Stanford Baylor CentFla Clemson   
USCDiver 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn 
Yorikke 5 Stanford CentFla Oklahoma Clemson FlaSt   
Zakalwe 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
Zeldar 5 Stanford CentFla Alabama Clemson FlaSt
zoog 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson FlaSt   
 
======================== ====================================================================================
   16 80 12 5 1 16 3 12 11 5 7 8 /80

======================================================================================

```

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/18 "2013-12-31T05:15:31Z")

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> [@For You](#):
>
> And Auburn is just on too much of a lucky streak right now, they will win in their usual odd fashion, I think.

I keep hearing about Auburn’s “luck” and I must take issue with it. The 4th an 18 against Georgia was luck, I will grant anybody that. However, that was the only “luck”. Just one play. What about the Iron Bowl, you might ask? Well, let’s talk about the Iron Bowl.

That game was tied before Bama tried that ill advised field goal attempt. If you take that play out then Auburn would have _still_ won in overtime. The Tigers were at home, the Tide doesn’t have a kicking game… AU _would_ have won in OT. There was no “lucky streak” in Auburn fighting the number one team in the nation into a corner where they can beat them. That was sixty minutes of Auburn making its case.

And let’s not forget that Auburn won the SEC championship the next week by seventeen points. “Luck” does not give you 17 points.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/19 "2013-12-31T15:34:40Z")

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Another update:

```auto

======================================================================================

                             ==================================================================================== 
                             MichSt Stanford Baylor CentFla Alabama Oklahoma Clemson OhioSt FlaSt Auburn
                             ==================================================================================== 

armedmonkey 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt FlaSt   
DMC 5 MichSt CentFla Alabama Clemson Auburn
For You 5 Stanford CentFla Oklahoma Clemson FlaSt   
Jackknifed Juggernaut 5 Stanford CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
Jman 5 Stanford CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
Munch 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn 
Nauplius 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn
NoClueBoy 5 MichSt CentFla Alabama Clemson Auburn
notfrommensa 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
Oakminster 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt FlaSt        
Rex Goliath 5 Stanford Baylor Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn 
Snowboarder Bo 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
swampbear 5 Stanford CentFla Oklahoma Clemson FlaSt 
Typo Negative 5 MichSt Stanford Baylor CentFla Clemson   
USCDiver 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma OhioSt Auburn 
Yorikke 5 Stanford CentFla Oklahoma Clemson FlaSt   
Zakalwe 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson Auburn
Zeldar 5 Stanford CentFla Alabama Clemson FlaSt
zoog 5 MichSt CentFla Oklahoma Clemson FlaSt   
 
======================== ====================================================================================
   19 95 12 8 2 18 3 15 13 6 7 11 /95

======================================================================================

```

We just need three more voters to make this the best participated in thread like this (of mine) all season! Thanks to all who’ve been part of them.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-bowls-5-games-10-teams-pick-teams-to-lose/677368/20 "2013-12-31T18:46:09Z")

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Thanks for starting the threads, **Zeldar** , and for being so good about doing each week in a timely manner. It’s been a real hoot to pick losers; somehow it’s different than picking the winners.

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