# BCS Championship Game--ROLL TIDE **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 7, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371 "2013-01-07T18:00:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/21 "2013-01-08T03:09:08Z")
Now, what we need is for TVs across the nation start to change channels, and the network and all the advertisers figure out what a _Suck_ ND is and they wear a stink on them for years to come! Yeah… 😛 > [@zamboniracer](#): > > In the BCS era, Southern California beat up Oklahoma 55-19 in January 2005. I think that title was vacated though. Vacated or not, they _WHOOPED_ them on the field and that was fun to watch! I have a copy around here somewhere, maybe I’ll pop it in during the second half… ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/22 "2013-01-08T03:14:23Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > And I’m tired of SEC haters. Shrug. Being tired of all the bullshit isn’t the same thing as hating the SEC. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/23 "2013-01-08T03:16:36Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > Don’t remember ever being so apathetic about a national championship before. But in the end, SEC can bite my sac. Go ND… I guess. I’m glad it’s not just me. ESPN kept all week trying to hype this up(It’s their business I get it). But they kept saying how this is the most excitement there has ever been for a NC game, and it just pissed me off. At least from the people I have spoken to this is the least interested they have ever been. A game between two universally despised team, that no one on earth thought would be a game at all. I think the phrase most often said outside of ESPN was “unless they change the rules so both can lose, I don’t think I’ll bother watching”. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/24 "2013-01-08T03:28:03Z")
> [@zamboniracer](#): > > My Irish are getting mugged, right there in public. The refs aren’t helping things any, but my Notre Dame is sucking bigtime. Good point! This is part of the reason I hate ND so much. Whenever I watch them, they seem to have 14 or 15 players on the field. 11 wear gold helmets and the rest are in stripes. Ooh! Nice INT! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/25 "2013-01-08T03:37:20Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > I’m glad it’s not just me. ESPN kept all week trying to hype this up(It’s their business I get it). But they kept saying how this is the most excitement there has ever been for a NC game, and it just pissed me off. Pales next to what I remember as the most anticipated, and what turned out to be a hellacious game; 1988 Orange Bowl, Miami & Oklahoma, 20-14. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/26 "2013-01-08T03:48:48Z")
ND scored! It’s a miracle. Only took a 31-yard completion that probably wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/27 "2013-01-08T03:52:07Z")
The new playoff system had better inject some life into college football or this will be a sport in decline. It isn’t just the blowout tonight, or the lousy slate of games this year. Dragging the BCS championship out to a Monday after the NFL playoffs have started isn’t the wisest idea either. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/28 "2013-01-08T03:57:23Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > ND scored! It’s a miracle. Only took a 31-yard completion that probably wasn’t. And a 15-yd “roughing” that probably wasn’t, either. Score one for the stripes! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/29 "2013-01-08T04:02:47Z")
Perhaps if the Irish used a thinner layer of gold-plate on their helmets, they might be able to keep up? ---
**Author:** ![diku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4af34b/32.png) [@diku](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/diku)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/30 "2013-01-08T04:29:19Z")
The problem is the 7 weeks between the last games of these teams and this one. I don’t think it would’ve helped ND win but it probably would’ve been closer. But hell, they haven’t played since the Saturday after Thanksgiving. It’s just ridiculous. Play the games in mid December. Give em a couple of weeks off and then go. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/31 "2013-01-08T04:30:17Z")
Ha! Never seen a Center almost get a Roughing the Passer penalty before. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/32 "2013-01-08T05:07:13Z")
42-14. [ul] [li]Three national championships in four years.[/li][li]Four straight national championships for the State of Alabama.[/li][li]Seven straight national championships for the SEC.[/li][/ul] So what happens if the first playoffs produce two SEC teams vying for the national championship? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/33 "2013-01-08T05:18:44Z")
Everyone except the south stops watching college football. This SEC dominance is great for their fans, but it frankly sucks for the rest of the country. It’s gettin’ really old. I’m only a casual college football fan, since my college was I-AA and sucked in football anyway, and while I root for OSU during the season, it’s definitely more of a casual fandom. I’m happy when they win, but I really don’t get upset when they lose, and I’m just not that emotionally invested. A lot of it is simply all the stupid things about college football. A four team playoff is certainly a step in the right direction, but it needs to be 8 or 16 to really give every team a shot at the title at the beginning of the season. One of my biggest gripes is that under the BCS (and the previous system), about 75% of the country is eliminated from NC consideration before a single snap has been played. While there are rules in place to prevent recruiting and retention payouts, it’s quite obvious that there is a LOT of cheating going on. Sometimes they get caught…most of the time they don’t. I think it’s safe to say that if you’re a top program, there’s some payment under the table going on somewhere. That leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The bowls are dumb. Sometimes there are good games…most of them are just lame. I don’t care about two 6-7 teams facing off in the granny smith apple bowl. The bowls (and the 4 team playoff) are slanted heavily towards southern teams due to location. Northern teams are ALWAYS away, since all the big bowls are in the south and the west. There are other issues I have, but these are the biggies. It’s not that I don’t think the BCS or a four team playoff get it right most of the time: they do. Alabama has obviously been the best program in the country the past few years, and the SEC obviously has the best top teams. It’s just that these inherent issues prevent me from really getting into the whole thing. Give me a 16 team playoff, though, and I’d watch for the same reason I watch the NCAA basketball tournament even though I generally hate basketball - it’s just great competition. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/34 "2013-01-08T06:05:45Z")
> [@Jman](#): > > One of my biggest gripes is that under the BCS (and the previous system), about 75% of the country is eliminated from NC consideration before a single snap has been played. FWIW, in the preseason polls, Notre Dame was unranked in the AP Poll and and #24 in the Coaches Poll. Teams could have got there if theyed play a tough schedule…and win all their games. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/35 "2013-01-08T06:29:36Z")
Rammer Jammer Yellowhammer give 'em hell Alabama! ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/36 "2013-01-08T07:10:40Z")
Alabama’s lopsided victory over Notre Dame – the game was never in doubt, hell, 21-0 in the first quarter and ND never even got close – further implants the meme of the dominance of the SEC teams in college football. Did other conferences have no better teams? I strongly suspect they DID have better teams, but ND seems to have a PR machine whose ground game is unmatched in college football. Perhaps this will help finally spike it. It’ll also make non-ND fans hate ND even more, as their miserable performance served to buttress the meme of SEC supremacy in college football. ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/37 "2013-01-08T09:47:09Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > Did other conferences have no better teams? I strongly suspect they DID have better teams, but ND seems to have a PR machine whose ground game is unmatched in college football. Maybe there were better teams, but college football will always respect wins and losses. ND was the _only_ undefeated team (not counting the disgusting Ohio State) in the country. Being the only team with 0 losses will put you in the championship\* if you’re from a BCS conference or Notre Dame (which is fair considering their schedule). The SEC would have been shut out of the championship game if Oregon or Kansas State were also undefeated. The SEC will be treated as best among peers and that’s why Alabama was chosen as the 2nd team over all the other conferences. SEC does not have an automatic qualifier. It was NOT a ND PR machine that put them in the championship game. ZERO losses against quality competition that put them in. \*Until the playoff starts in 2 years. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/38 "2013-01-08T12:35:25Z")
So Alabama was the better team last night. But I maintain that if Alabama had played Notre Dame’s schedule, they would not have finished 12-0 like ND did. Gotta give credit to ND for playing the schedule they did and winning them all. The SEC dominance is half self-fulfilling prophesy and half myth. When you play the easy out of conference schedules that they do and have the pollsters in your back pocket, you’re going to do very well in the polls and hence play for the title every year. Disgusting moment of the night: Brent Musberger drooling over the Alabama QB’s girlfriend. They had to turn the camera away from her and mop the booth, jeez Brent, you never saw a pretty girl before? ---
**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/39 "2013-01-08T12:45:24Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > FWIW, in the preseason polls, Notre Dame was unranked in the AP Poll and and #24 in the Coaches Poll. > > Teams could have got there if theyed play a tough schedule…and win all their games. No, ND is definitely one of the 25% who can play their way in. Let me ask you this? If Ohio University had gone undefeated in the MAC, would they have made the championship game over Alabama? No? Then they were eliminated before a single game was played. And we KNOW this is the case, as it’s happened several times before. Boise’s been left out. Utah’s been left out. Heck, even AUBURN’s been left out. And people like to say ‘if they play a tough schedule.’ How is a lower conference school supposed to schedule the 3-4 powerhouse schools each season to have even a SHOT at making the title game as it is (they’ll have a better chance in 2014, but there will still be teams left out that go undefeated)? Even the big schools can’t get that kind of schedule most of the time. Remember that these other schools have to agree to play YOU… A team in the MAC or WAC can’t just call up Florida and say “we’re playing you in September.” ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371/40 "2013-01-08T12:49:11Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > Alabama’s lopsided victory over Notre Dame – the game was never in doubt, hell, 21-0 in the first quarter and ND never even got close – further implants the meme of the dominance of the SEC teams in college football. Did other conferences have no better teams? I strongly suspect they DID have better teams, but ND seems to have a PR machine whose ground game is unmatched in college football. Perhaps this will help finally spike it. It’ll also make non-ND fans hate ND even more, as their miserable performance served to buttress the meme of SEC supremacy in college football. How is seven straight championships a meme? I don’t particularly care much one way or another, but ignoring that fact and handwaving it away as a “meme” seems kinda insane. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bcs-championship-game-roll-tide/646371.md?page=3)