# Be careful when you’re out hunting deer

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**Created:** [November 26, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/be-careful-when-you-re-out-hunting-deer/1010818 "2024-11-26T19:02:40Z")\
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I always thought that the main danger when hunting was disturbing a bear, or accidentally being shot oif you didn’t wear your orange. But it makes sense that a sudden burst of activity might cause fatal wear and tear on your heart.

> **[Deer hunters in Michigan keep dying. Now we know why](https://www.pennlive.com/news/2024/11/deer-hunters-in-michigan-keep-dying-now-we-know-why.html)**
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> A frightening trend has developed early in Michigan's deer season.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/be-careful-when-you-re-out-hunting-deer/1010818/2 "2024-11-26T19:04:38Z")

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Perhaps hunters over 40 should get cardiac clearance from their physicians. A pre-hunting season physical!

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/be-careful-when-you-re-out-hunting-deer/1010818/3 "2024-11-26T19:10:11Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Perhaps hunters over 40 should get cardiac clearance from their physicians. A pre-hunting season physical!.

You’re in Wisconsin, right?

They should also get remedial reading education in what the words “NO HUNTING OR TRESPASSING” mean, how to check the background behind their targets for houses and barns, and how to tell a deer from a cow.

At least, in my experience. FIBS.

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> and how to tell a deer from a cow.

I’ve seen examples of Wisconsin farmers, at this time of year, painting their cows and horses with orange paint (sometimes with the words “NOT A DEER”), because some hunters are dumb, drunk, overly eager, or all of the above.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/be-careful-when-you-re-out-hunting-deer/1010818/5 "2024-11-26T19:17:21Z")

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Not only am I in Wisconsin, I own 60 acres of land which many consider prime hunting ground, given the outrageous number of deer I’ve seen in my own back yard (25 once gathered in my back lot, the day after rifle season ended).

I don’t allow rifle hunting on it, as I don’t like bullets whizzing around where I like to walk. I’m not dumb enough to hike thru my woods during that period, though. And I do allow bow hunting.

Frankly I’ve not had significant problems with trespassers or uninvited hunters in recent years. But I may just be lucky.

And I have seen a goat tied to a car’s roof during hunting season, and the car did have Illinois plates on it. But maybe they just bought a goat for a nice meal from one of our many local goat farms.

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> FIBS.

Doesn’t seem to be an acronym for anything in particular except maybe _Flippin’ Illinois Bastards_. There seem to be some variations on _flippin’_ and _bastards_ but _Illinois_ was the only word consistently used in the explanations.

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Have bagged a few deer in my day. Yea, they’re heavy. That’s one of the reasons you want to gut it ASAP, to make it lighter.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/be-careful-when-you-re-out-hunting-deer/1010818/8 "2024-11-26T19:18:25Z")

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To me, FIB = Flatland Illinois Bastards or F\*\*king Illinois Bastards.

I don’t really consider ‘flatland’ to be much of an insult, since my Grandma Mercotan came from the Netherlands.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/be-careful-when-you-re-out-hunting-deer/1010818/9 "2024-11-26T19:20:37Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> F\*\*king Illinois Bastards

Same here; it’s been a popular derogatory acronym at least since the early '80s.

When I was in high school, we had another one: SEIP (“Sh\*t-Eating Illinois People”), but I think that may have just been a local one, as I’ve not heard it used elsewhere.

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I’m a FIB but attended college in Milwaukee and lived there for fiveish years.

My impression is that most deer hunting is done by homegrown Wisconsinites. We FIBs are more likely to, say, decapitate ourselves snowmobiling or drown ourselves …snowmobiling.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/be-careful-when-you-re-out-hunting-deer/1010818/11 "2024-11-26T19:29:28Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> given the outrageous number of deer I’ve seen in my own back yard

We had lots of deer on our property, so many they would travel in large herds, to the point they would get run over regularly on the highway. (and then you’d have to wait for the DNR to come get them. Don’t you DARE touch that deer, even if it is blocking your driveway, or you’ll get a fine. (Then they’d just take it around the back road to the “deer dump” anyway.))

Except during season. They would disappear like they had an underground hideout.

> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> But I may just be lucky.

Times may have changed. I haven’t been back there in gun season in decades. No point in visiting if I have to stay inside all day. 🙂

One funny memory: during gun season, there would always be about half the early mass congregation would come to church in their blaze orange with their tag on the back. Praise god, now let’s go hunting!

The OP reminds me of the joke, where the punchline is “yes it is easier to drag it by the horns, but we’re getting farther away from the car!”

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> then you’d have to wait for the DNR to come get them. Don’t you DARE touch that deer, even if it is blocking your driveway, or you’ll get a fine.

Well, times have changed since that sort of thing happened. If the local landowner or roadkill harvester doesn’t deal with the deer, the carcass will be there for a long, long time. Fortunately, an influx of coyotes now often ends up harvesting the carcass.

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Well, times have changed since that sort of thing happened.

Good! It was a silly law.

We didn’t have coyotes. I could have said we don’t have bears, but that is no longer true, either! 😮

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IIRC, by far the most dangerous part of hunting is tree stand injuries, and it isn’t even close to whatever #2 is. Out west, we really don’t have any concept of tree stands, they’re not a thing. I suppose the biggest danger is weather-related.

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It’s been a few years since I’ve hunted, but I would sometimes see articles about the importance of being in shape before you hunt. You’re going to be walking, the terrain might be rugged, if you kill a deer you might have to drag it somewhere, if you’re breathing so hard beause you’re out of shape you might have trouble even shooting a deer (elk, mule deer, whatever). Most of these articles talked about being in shape in terms of having a good hunt, but a few of them did mention the need to be healthy because you might be in a remote location without easy access to emergency care.

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Perhaps hunters over 40 should get cardiac clearance from their physicians.

Are we going to require a license to shovel snow?

> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Frankly I’ve not had significant problems with trespassers or uninvited hunters in recent years. But I may just be lucky.

Our property is posted no hunting, no trespassing. Our friends/neighbors do the same. I recently removed another deer stand with permission from the neighbor where the stand was placed. This one was the third in the past 20 years.

Last year during archery season we found a fawn in the woods, killed by an arrow.

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Are we going to require a license to shovel snow?

Either from hunting or shoveling snow, no one needs the government regulating people to get a physical, instead of them dying suddenly and unexpectedly from exertion, we just think they should voluntarily be checked. It’s up to them.

In actual fact, if some out of shape doofus that I don’t know dies in the woods because he didn’t take care of himself, I don’t care. 40,000 men and women every day. Another 40,000 coming every day.

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Deer are smart. They somehow know what properties are posted “no hunting” and the hide out there.

There was that case where deer found an open door to a grade school one night, and the principal and janitor had to safety get them out before first bell. So they went to the cafeteria and made a trail of corn to the front door. They ran out of corn when there were still deer inside, so they used cans of green beans. The does all turned their noses up at this, so the janitor asked the principal what to do. So they used pork & beans with good results. Then the principal made a suggestion:

[“And see what the bucks in the boys room will have”](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hNC6QnVvLHQ&pp=ygUrc2VlIHdoYXQgdGhlIGJveXMgaW4gdGhlIGJhY2tyb29tIHdpbGwgaGF2ZQ%3D%3D)

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> 40,000 men and women every day. Another 40,000 coming every day. -

\< cool guitar riff \>

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> \< cool guitar riff \>

needs more cowbell

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