# Bear kept 3-year-old boy safe

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 28, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574 "2019-01-28T22:24:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shinna\_Minna\_Ma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@Shinna\_Minna\_Ma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shinna_Minna_Ma)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/21 "2019-01-29T21:23:50Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Sounds more like a dingo.

But the dingo would have eaten the baby. 😃 Maybe.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/22 "2019-01-30T16:26:32Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> Holy moly! _Water bears_!
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> I think it’s great the kid survived. And for all the adultsplaining going on and comments on unreliable 3 year olds, is it really so outlandish the kid ferreals stirred up a mama bear’s maternal instincts and got some snuggles?

I would think that a black bear would ignore or kill a child.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/23 "2019-01-30T17:02:13Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I would think that a black bear would ignore or kill a child.

That’s racist!

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/24 "2019-01-30T17:02:44Z")

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:smack:

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**Author:** ![rbroome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@rbroome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rbroome)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/25 "2019-01-30T21:40:24Z")

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Of course if anyone wanted to actually prove this, a careful cleaning of the child’s clothes and checking for bear DNA etc would be conclusive. But hey, the child is alive and has good memories of a very traumatic experience. The bear did save the child-by staying in one place the child was warmer and safer. It doesn’t really matter whether anyone else could see the bear. Go Bears!

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/26 "2019-01-30T21:46:09Z")

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Maybe it was Ditka.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/27 "2019-01-31T13:48:58Z")

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> [@markn\_1](#):
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> Maybe it was Ditka.

Da Bears!

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/28 "2019-01-31T17:52:51Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Or, just a big friendly gay guy. 😉

Is this really necessary? Equating gays with child molesters even in a joking matter is somewhat offensive.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/29 "2019-01-31T17:59:02Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> The article cites two other instances, one in 1888 and the other in 1955, where 2-year-olds were kept warm/were fed by by bears.

It’s uncommon, because most young children are unbearable.

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/30 "2019-01-31T18:45:04Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Sounds more like a dingo.

> [@Shinna\_Minna\_Ma](#):
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> But the dingo would have eaten the baby. 😃 Maybe.

I know this is commonly considered a joke, but you guys do know kids have actually been killed -and adults seriously injured- by what are, after all, wild dogs? Including, according to all the evidence, the baby the ‘joke’ originated with.

Baby killed by wild dogs, parents arrested, story sensationalised by media, parents convicted of murdering their child in some bizarre ritual, basically on the grounds of being a bit weird and some very questionable forensics, mother then spends 3 years in prison being treated as a sick joke before being exonerated. I guess I just don’t see the where the funny comes in? Is it just the name dingo? 😕

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/31 "2019-01-31T18:54:15Z")

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> [@Si\_Amigo](#):
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> Is this really necessary? Equating gays with child molesters even in a joking matter is somewhat offensive.

Where on earth do you even get child molester from? AFAICT you seem to be the only one making that connection.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/32 "2019-01-31T18:57:08Z")

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> [@Si\_Amigo](#):
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> Is this really necessary? Equating gays with child molesters even in a joking matter is somewhat offensive.

No idea how you got anything out of that post to suggest the poster was making a joke about child molestation.

Bear = big friendly gay guy.

Nope, not seeing anything there about child molesters.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/33 "2019-01-31T18:57:19Z")

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To be clear, “big friendly gay guy” was playing off a term for a type of “butch” gay guy, “bear”. While a fairly obvious joke to those who know the term, I still found it funny and didn’t even think there could be a molestation angle.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/34 "2019-01-31T19:03:19Z")

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> [@Filbert](#):
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> I guess I just don’t see the where the funny comes in? Is it just the name dingo? 😕

The specific [reference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghCTZF61ey0).

I’ve tried before to explain why horribleness can be turned to comedy without disrespecting the subjects, but as it turns out you either get it and don’t need the explanation, or you don’t in which case no explanation will help. It’s easier to try and work it out yourself or accept the alternative that anyone who laughs at horror is a cruel, insensitive monster.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/35 "2019-02-01T02:05:37Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> To be clear, “big friendly gay guy” was playing off a term for a type of “butch” gay guy, “bear”. While a fairly obvious joke to those who know the term, I still found it funny and didn’t even think there could be a molestation angle.

Now I’m even more confused! Butch gay guy bear? My mind is spinning trying to wrap around that one. Gay guy I get. Bear is a big hairy guy. But butch? What I envision is a loving transgender big hairy person. And the world keeps spinning.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/36 "2019-02-01T02:42:54Z")

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> [@Si\_Amigo](#):
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> Now I’m even more confused! Butch gay guy bear? My mind is spinning trying to wrap around that one. Gay guy I get. Bear is a big hairy guy. But butch? What I envision is a loving transgender big hairy person. And the world keeps spinning.

> **[Bear Culture is the Subject of a New University Study in the UK](https://metrosource.com/bear-culture-is-the-subject-of-a-new-university-study-in-the-uk/)**
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> Bear culture is new subset of the gay community. Now there's a university funding a study looking into the relatively recent phenomenon.

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/37 "2019-02-01T03:16:09Z")

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Ok where do otters and power bottoms factor into all this?

[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8vqb9uC31Bk](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8vqb9uC31Bk)

[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=\_eAVSqKZ5ng](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_eAVSqKZ5ng)

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/38 "2019-02-01T19:50:49Z")

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Lots of people were raised by wolves. I buy it.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/39 "2019-02-01T21:04:47Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Lots of people were raised by wolves. I buy it.

I think of the non sequitur[comics with bears](http://www.simper.family/comics1.php?y=2018&m=3&d=23). The sign for their trap would read. “Day Care.”

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**Author:** ![Littleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@Littleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Littleman)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-kept-3-year-old-boy-safe/828574/40 "2019-02-02T15:26:56Z")

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The kid was quoted in local news as saying " I had a friend who was a bear and was with me"

Which to me sounds an awfully lot like what a 3 year old would make of the saying " bear with me" .  
Which could have been said by rescuers or weeks before by anyone.

It would be especially easy to have a had a rescuer say this, and given a child’s sense of time I’d see where it came from.

However during the time he spent missing it rained and froze at night, and I doubt I would have survived without a fire. Let alone someone with such a low body mass.  
A child crying out at night ( assuming at some point he would ) could likely be heard for at least half a mile too

That suggests to me the possibility of a kidnapper who changed their mind but based on the information that’s a wild theory.

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