# ...because you are too stupid for words (a Gonzomax pitting) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 23, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107 "2009-04-23T15:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/81 "2009-04-24T01:08:56Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I have to disagree here. People that are pro or anti anything that won’t listen to reason hurt their cause. > > The only thing that Gonzo has done is make me raise a hairy eyeball in the direction of any gun control. He (and others) have showed me how absolutely clueless some, if not many or most of the anti-gun people are. > > For that, I guess I should thank him. > > (used to be middle of the road about gun control. Now not so much) I don’t know why I continue to be surprised, but I am, that people will admit to stupidity like this. If you are making important decisions about things to spite some anonymous person on the internet, you are a moron. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/82 "2009-04-24T01:10:20Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Scrambling to justify ageism. Very poor try. Ageism it is. I’ll take it then that it’s safe to assume that you have _always_ been a thoughtless, lazy, and poor thinker? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/83 "2009-04-24T01:12:53Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > If you are making important decisions about things to spite some anonymous person on the internet, you are a moron. I’ll agree with this. **enipla** , is there some reason that you choose to allow someone who is demonstratively clueless to define the issue for you? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/84 "2009-04-24T01:13:34Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > it is a shining compliment indeed! Brilliant factual rebuttal as always, clown. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/85 "2009-04-24T01:18:49Z")
I can’t believe I wasted my time reading this entire thread. I’m old and don’t have that much time to waste. I hope somebody will wake me when a really relevant pit thread gets started. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/86 "2009-04-24T01:28:35Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I’ll agree with this. **enipla** , is there some reason that you choose to allow someone who is demonstratively clueless to define the issue for you? I’m a programmer. It’s simply data I use to make informed decisions about anti-gun folks and their objectives. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/87 "2009-04-24T01:31:31Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Thanks for yet another droll little story…it’s appreciated, especially since it seems to be the extent of your capabilities. Come on, you’re selling short on good ol’ Lucy’s ability to troll and shit up GD threads, too. I still get a chuckle from his frequent desire to beclown of himself by doing things like snarkily challenging the source of a PDF as unknown when on every single other page it says “9/11 Commission Report”. That he’d support The Gonz isn’t much of a surprise. The Gonz shits up GD threads with stupidity, Lucy does it with trolling. They just approach the same problem from different angles. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/88 "2009-04-24T01:36:00Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I’m a programmer. It’s simply data I use to make informed decisions about anti-gun folks and their objectives. I’m a programmer too. I don’t assume that all data is valid data. I like to test the data, then I can throw out the garbage. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/89 "2009-04-24T01:37:42Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Yeah, he’s the **clothahump** of our side. Humpy’s actually gotten better recently. edit: I… hope he’s gotten better. Maybe I’ve gotten worse. Oh, god. I’m turning into a pod person… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/90 "2009-04-24T01:41:12Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > …but if you are defending that his posts are useful or meaningful in debate or argument against the right, you should feel embarassed. If I had, I might, but since I didn’t, I don’t. I don’t think he has much to offer, hence, as I said, I generally skip right over. Not defending him, what’s to defend, his arguments stand or fall on their own. But I will point out that he does draw an inordinate amount of attention from…certain persons. Now, why is he their Betty Noyer, rather than a more articulate and polished poster like **Diogenes** or **Hentor**? In some cases, I think its because he becomes the opposite of a scapegoat, they appoint him the standard bearer because they can whup him, and they like to win. Can’t prove that, of course, but this is the Pit, not GD, so I can air my suspicions as if they meant something or anybody cared. Besides, my natural inclination when I see 6 guys beating up on one is to make it six to two. Probably can’t help that, and I’m not about to try. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/91 "2009-04-24T01:43:09Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > They just approach the same problem from different angles. Of course I should also note that since they’re on the same “side”, it’s ok! Yay for mouthbreathing partisanship. And people who object to The Gonz’ idiotic posts in GD have just been beaten by the (cite free, naturally) lethal joksterism that has earned Lucy the reputation as a thoughtful, fact-based debater. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/92 "2009-04-24T01:52:55Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > But I will point out that he does draw an inordinate amount of attention from…certain persons. Now, why is he their Betty Noyer, rather than a more articulate and polished poster like **Diogenes** or **Hentor**? In some cases, I think its because he becomes the opposite of a scapegoat, they appoint him the standard bearer because they can whup him, and they like to win. There’s some truth to that. There is also truth to the claim by our more conservative brethren that there are leftists here who tend to jump on the low-hanging fruit on their side. There are numbskulls on both sides, but I’ll note that those numbskulls tend to get jumped by the more thoughtful of their own side when they are too egregious. > [@](#): > > Besides, my natural inclination when I see 6 guys beating up on one is to make it six to two. Probably can’t help that, and I’m not about to try. _shrug_ Your call. Have fun. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/93 "2009-04-24T02:08:41Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > But I will point out that he does draw an inordinate amount of attention from…certain persons. You mean homosexuals, I presume. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/94 "2009-04-24T02:14:33Z")
I haven’t the slightest notion what you’re on about there, **Lem.** If you want me to know, you’ll have to clarify, if you don’t care enough to, that works too. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/95 "2009-04-24T02:19:15Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I haven’t the slightest notion what you’re on about there, **Lem.** If you want me to know, you’ll have to clarify, if you don’t care enough to, that works too. The subject in question has been both referred to and already [linked to](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508844) in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/96 "2009-04-24T02:27:14Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I’m a programmer too. I don’t assume that all data is valid data. I like to test the data, then I can throw out the garbage. I throw out garbage too. But it’s pretty clear that people like Gonzo cannot. And while I can test and disregard garbage, many don’t or can’t. Or use it to support their positions. Bad data still exists. And is created by folks like the 20/20 crew. And people vote on it. People like Gonzo don’t change my mind so much, as make me more cautious of those that have similar agendas and use garbage to support their positions. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/97 "2009-04-24T02:28:32Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I haven’t the slightest notion what you’re on about there, **Lem.** If you want me to know, you’ll have to clarify, if you don’t care enough to, that works too. You defended gonzo because the people who attack him are all certain types of people. The last pit thread about gonzo was about his use of the word “faggy”. When he was pitted about his use of a pejorative term for homosexuals, he refused to see what the problem was. Various people tried to explain to him why calling things “faggy” was offensive, for about 8 pages, but he couldn’t see it. After all, Ann Coulter used the word faggy, another guy on some website used the word faggy, middle-school kids use the word faggy–so it can’t be offensive. Needless to say this did not endear him to the various differently oriented people on this board, or those sympathetic to them, or those who aren’t idiots. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/98 "2009-04-24T02:37:40Z")
Oh, but surely Lucy’s serious and doesn’t understand why his baited hook about the usual suspects is both vapid, stupid and _profoundly_ slimy. He really doesn’t grasp why people might be upset by idiots shitting up discussion threads. Or people who use bigoted slurs. Baffled. Mystified. Totally lacking comprehension. Yep. The most trustworthy clown you could ask for. Luckily enough that convenient lack of comprehension can be used to serve as bait for “the usual suspects” who must be doing some wrong by objecting to debate threads being ruined by idiocy and who have confirmed their evil intentions by merely discussing the bait. What luck! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/99 "2009-04-24T02:47:39Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If three guys make roughly the same argument, you’ll pretend to only have read **Gonzo** ’s, Yeah, except there aren’t two other people that do that! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/100 "2009-04-24T02:52:26Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > It was quite bridled, actually. It wasn’t said in anger or haste, it was reasonable speculation based on your behavior. > > What is ageism exactly? Discrimination based on age regardless of actual functional impairments? In this case we’re not talking about that, since what we’re discussing is the actual impairments that come with age. So as an age bigot you justify yourself with some kind of physical explanation describing why old people are inferior. That is what you bigot types did with blacks, made up some trumped up bullshit mental inferiority explanation. It is still shameful. It is still bigotry. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107.md?page=6)