# ...because you are too stupid for words (a Gonzomax pitting) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 23, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107 "2009-04-23T15:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/141 "2009-04-24T04:46:57Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well, yeah, a little bitty one. Most are. > > I just realized that I hardly read **Gonzo** except when you quote him, just before you give him a jolly good thrashing. You march into his cage with whip and chair, and emerge victorious, blissfully unaware that you’re performing the anteater-taming act. Again. And then again. > > I may have read ten times more of him because of you than because of him! Or something. I’d thank you, but that level of insincerity is impossible for a Texas boy. Liked \*Brokeback Mountain \*while stroking your poodle, did you? 🙂 Seriously man, I don’t know why you go on about it. Gonzomax seems to have some perfectly lucid (and often funny) posts in Game Room, and…well, that’s about the only place I’ve seen that. so I gots nothing… ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/142 "2009-04-24T05:06:54Z")
My poodle knows more about gun safety and hunting than gonzomax. No, really. I’m not even making that up. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/143 "2009-04-24T06:38:19Z")
Great Debate about God, generally not a total trainwreck. About politics, about sexuality, about fine points of jurisprudence, not a guaranteed trainwreck. But guns, gun control, anything associated with guns, and its a lead pipe cinch, straight off the Bridge on the River Kwai. Is it like that everywhere else, or just here? Shit, the damned things ought to be banned because they make us nuts! ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/144 "2009-04-24T07:19:44Z")
Well, if you take someone who knows _absolutely nothing_ about operating a train, and put him at the controls of a train, you’re going to have a train wreck. And if you take someone who knows _absolutely nothing_ about guns, and put him into a debate about guns, the debate is going to be a train wreck. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/145 "2009-04-24T07:46:00Z")
Clowny has never let not knowing anything about a subject stop him from shitting up a GD thread by joking about it. Why should guns be any different? ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/146 "2009-04-24T08:19:24Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > honest engine Injun. Like Indian. There is something funny about “honest engine” though . . . ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/147 "2009-04-24T10:29:12Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Yeah, that was lame. "You don’t use ‘too’ or ‘to’ correctly…therein lies the thread hypocrisy about **gonzomax**! > > Okaaaayyyy… Typos are one thing. I sure have my share. xtisme said he doesn’t even care to understand the difference between “to” and “too”. That is lunkheaded, willful stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/148 "2009-04-24T10:55:00Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > He doesn’t converse. There’s no exchange of ideas. No point/counterpoint. He just digs in and keeps repeating the same thing. > > If you look in the linked thread, he basically says “You gun lovers can’t handle when someone exposes the truth so you cry bias!” about 20 times in a row despite people fleshing out their ideas and attempting to explain to him their perspective. He doesn’t care, he’s off in his own little world. He’s certainly not the only one with an invariant grasp on stupidity in a gun thread. I’ve spent many posts trying to explain relative risk to gun advocates, but I’ll guarantee you the same stupid fuckers will be back to point out that cars are more dangerous than guns. They’ll also suggest that because they have an autistic level of knowledge about gun specs, they somehow have the upper hand in debating the public health issues involved. Finally, they’ll never concede an inch, but will simply fall back on false bravado. “Cops come for my guns, they’re just like looters so I’ll kill 'em.” Yeah, whatever difficulties gonzomax might have, they don’t stand out in gun threads. Predictable stupidity is the norm. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/149 "2009-04-24T12:16:08Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > XT ,I feel so sad for you. In the great debates you skirt the limits showing nastyness and anger that I can not understand. Then ,once again. you feel the need to pit, where you can go even farther with your immature anger and childness. do you really feel too restrained by manners? Or is it that only with insults and anger can you be yourself? I really ,really feel sad for you. Try reading this with a Yoda voice and it makes perfect sense! Gonzomax is Yoda’s retarded brother!😃 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/150 "2009-04-24T12:30:38Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > He’s certainly not the only one with an invariant grasp on stupidity in a gun thread. People who disagree with me must be stupid! > [@](#): > > I’ve spent many posts trying to explain relative risk to gun advocates, but I’ll guarantee you the same stupid fuckers will be back to point out that cars are more dangerous than guns. I actually agree that the whole cars line of comparison in that thread was poor. Taking comparisons and analogies too far often is, because guns occupy a pretty unique niche in public policy, especially in the US. > [@](#): > > They’ll also suggest that because they have an autistic level of knowledge about gun specs, they somehow have the upper hand in debating the public health issues involved. This is a mischaracterization. I assume you’re referring to “assault weapons” threads in which gun advocates attempt to reveal the lies of the gun control lobby. Essentially “this is what they’re trying to make you think they’re banning. They’re not. This is what they’re banning”. It’s an attempt to counter the deception and deliberate spreading of ignorance of gun control advocates. They try to discredit it as nitpicking or something, but it’s not - their entire line of attack relies on deceiving people about what they’re actually doing, and this is an issue that I’d think even intelligent gun control advocates could side with us on. When I advocate a position, I hate when other people on my side lie. I’d hope that some of you would have the same character. > [@](#): > > Finally, they’ll never concede an inch, but will simply fall back on false bravado. “Cops come for my guns, they’re just like looters so I’ll kill 'em.” YIPICAYA MOTHERFUCKER! > [@](#): > > Yeah, whatever difficulties gonzomax might have, they don’t stand out in gun threads. Predictable stupidity is the norm. There are idiots everywhere on any side of a debate - but Gonzo definitely stands out for hard headedness and ability to simply ignore anything that doesn’t exactly match his preconceptions. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/151 "2009-04-24T12:43:04Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Holeee Shit! This _here_, is a Pit thread response. Well played. Golf clap and everything. Didn’t want it to get buried in the morass. Maybe **gonzo** will refute. Refute it? He’s still trying to read it. But yes, this was a good one. I liked especially the “skidmark in the underwear of the SDMB” line. That having been said, I feel a sneaking affection for the **gonz** -meister. I don’t think he is a troll in the classic sense of the term - this is just the way he looks at the world. I think it was Stephen King’s line - “when he was sixteen, he took a look at the world, slapped on two coats of varnish and one coat of quick-dry cement, and called it good”. And there is no malice in him - he is just used to believing whatever the shop steward told him to believe, and it seems to have worked out for him, because he’s not listening. I was going to say ‘it’s too bad’ but it isn’t. Every joke needs a punch line, and **gonzo** is someone you can count on to post it. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/152 "2009-04-24T12:45:04Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > People who disagree with me must be stupid! Actually, I posted an introductory sentence, followed with three examples to explain my thinking. The fact that you excised it to make an asinine remark is simply frustrating and misleading. It makes it less likely for me to read the rest of your comments without thinking “douche” right off the bat. > [@](#): > > I actually agree that the whole cars line of comparison in that thread was poor. It isn’t just _that_ thread. It’s every thread on guns, almost on every page. I guarantee you it will occur in the next one too, and it will almost certainly be from someone who I already took the time to explain the statistics, or the concept, or even walk through numerical examples with. Gun advocates are apparently unable to incorporate new information. They must suffer from reductions in neuroplasticity. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/153 "2009-04-24T13:16:09Z")
You just refuted me saying “People who disagree with me must be stupid!”, and in the same post, said that people who disagree with you are stupid. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/154 "2009-04-24T13:38:09Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I don’t know why I continue to be surprised, but I am, that people will admit to stupidity like this. If you are making important decisions about things to spite some anonymous person on the internet, you are a moron. Please read carefully. I said people LIKE him. There are plenty of them. Gun control advocates that 1) Twist the facts and or 2) Simply don’t have the first clue about what they are talking about. They, them, those (plural) people do the honest intelligent gun control advocates a disservice. Because of those dishonest and uniformed people, we all need to be extra diligent about any recommended gun control. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/155 "2009-04-24T13:46:01Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > You just refuted me saying “People who disagree with me must be stupid!”, and in the same post, said that people who disagree with you are stupid. Okay, please quote where I said that people who disagree with me are stupid, or that I am saying they are stupid because they disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/156 "2009-04-24T13:47:49Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Please read carefully. I said people LIKE him. There are plenty of them. Gun control advocates that 1) Twist the facts and or 2) Simply don’t have the first clue about what they are talking about. They, them, those (plural) people do the honest intelligent gun control advocates a disservice. > > Because of those dishonest and uniformed people, we all need to be extra diligent about any recommended gun control. That makes about as much sense as saying we need to have increased gun control because a guy on the internet said he’d kill cops who were confiscating weapons because they would be like looters. There are ways to evaluate the merit of positions that are independent of the nature of those advancing those positions. Operating otherwise is moronic. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/157 "2009-04-24T13:48:23Z")
[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian] xtisme said he doesn’t even care to understand the difference between “to” and “too”. That is lunkheaded, willful stupidity. [/QUOTE] And Hentor said ‘Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the hypocrisy raging through the OP’, which is a level of clueless stupidity that is at least in the same solar system with that shown by The Master (a.k.a. The Gonz) himself. While I don’t think Hentor is on the same level of stupidity as The Gonz this is most likely due to his innate intelligence which is slightly above pocket lint. As for this language nazi bullshit, it seems to be the last resort of those who really have nothing interesting to say beyond criticizing others writing skills…such as yourself, Hentor. _yawn_ I neither know nor care about some of what I consider to be silly and meaningless trivia in a language that is not my native tongue. -XT ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/158 "2009-04-24T14:02:25Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > There are ways to evaluate the merit of positions that are independent of the nature of those advancing those positions. Never said there wasn’t > [@](#): > > Operating otherwise is moronic. There is nothing moronic about taking extra precautions when you know that the ‘opposition’ twists the facts and mis-represents their intentions. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/159 "2009-04-24T14:15:03Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > As for this language nazi bullshit, it seems to be the last resort of those who really have nothing interesting to say beyond criticizing others writing skills…such as yourself, Hentor. _yawn_ I neither know nor care about some of what I consider to be silly and meaningless trivia in a language that is not my native tongue. > > -XT Well, if English taint your native tongue, you are doing damn well my fine sir! Ignore the text nazis and be on your merry way! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107/160 "2009-04-24T14:31:49Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Okay, please quote where I said that people who disagree with me are stupid, or that I am saying they are stupid because they disagree. “It isn’t just that thread. It’s every thread on guns, almost on every page. I guarantee you it will occur in the next one too, and it will almost certainly be from someone who I already took the time to explain the statistics, or the concept, or even walk through numerical examples with. Gun advocates are apparently unable to incorporate new information.” You’re essentially saying ‘I made an argument. They didn’t come to agree with this argument. Therefore they are set in their ways and incapable of seeing I’m right’ It’s true that you didn’t call them stupid. To me, an unwillingness to examine your own beliefs when challenged is… not quite stupid exactly, but it doesn’t help. So I suppose I mischaracterized what you said. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-are-too-stupid-for-words-a-gonzomax-pitting/494107.md?page=9)