# Because you have the technology does NOT make it ok to use it, asshole. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 13, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036 "2010-06-13T19:03:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/281 "2010-06-15T22:15:06Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > And now **Happy** ’s banned. Suspended I think. Dude really needs to quit posting while drunk. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/282 "2010-06-15T22:22:23Z")
He’s not nearly as good at it as I am. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/283 "2010-06-15T22:30:06Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > Seriously, **Stoid** , I think your cheese has slid off your cracker. I don’t think it was ever there to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/284 "2010-06-15T22:42:49Z")
Stodi’s cheese slid off her cracker and stuck to her thighs. Also, Guinster, where’s that skimpy two-piece pic? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/285 "2010-06-16T03:01:14Z")
I told you this thread was stupid, but do people listen to me? Oh NOOOoooooo. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/286 "2010-06-16T03:47:44Z")
Yeah. I blame Rand Rover. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Hoodie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Red\_Hoodie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Hoodie)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/287 "2010-06-16T04:17:28Z")
I know I’m new, but I’ve been watching this thread for a couple days… Tell me if you saw Ms. Upgrade, or the Star Trek Family, or Mr. Unicorn, or “It’s a Full Moon, Let’s Have A BBQ”, or god fucking forbid “Your Clothes Should Not Treat You That Way”, IN PUBLIC, you would be able to just look at them and think to yourself…“Yeh…that’s normal.” I for one would barely be able to keep my shit together. I’d have to leave. For the record, I am a “larger” (or insert euphemism for ‘fatty’ here) woman…and I make damn sure that when I leave the house, I don’t have lumps/rolls/blobs/clefts/cottage cheese/etc hanging out, or barely repressed by fabric that’s been pressed into some service nature never intended. Hell, I make sure I don’t have them WHEN I’M TRYING THE CLOTHES ON before I buy them. The fact that these people think that they look good in these clothes doesn’t change the fact that THEY DON’T. I don’t know Stoid, but it seems to me that people who have enough time to get offended on other people’s behalf have too much time on their hands. Read a fuckin book or somethin already. In the meantime…Jesus, did you see that last one? I mean hell…those people are practically doing us a service - who amongst us here can’t look at those photos and say, “There but for the grace of God go I?” And come on. Fat is funny. I can say that, I’m fat. It’s even funnier when coupled with ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/288 "2010-06-16T05:50:29Z")
See… Upgrade girl gave me the same immediate mental reaction I would have had from seeing her in person: “Oh honey, NO.” I can’t actually TELL what size she is, her body’s so distorted by her clothes. We’re totally different shapes, but she looks around-about my size, maybe a little larger than me. But here’s the thing: I don’t leave the house in shorts. I don’t even OWN shorts that are shorter than knee length, and those are for working out or wearing under long skirts. I wear blue jeans or slacks that fit, and by ‘fit’ I mean ‘even fresh out of the dryer I put them on and they fit snugly around my honest to goodness waist without giving me muffin-top’. I wear T-shirts to work on occasion, but most of the time I wear a nice-ish, casual-ish shirt or blouse: I would wear [this](http://www.torrid.com/torrid/store/product.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302036002&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442226883&bmUID=1276666432365) or [this](http://curvyclothing.com.au/images/Classic%20Collar%20Shirt.jpg) or [this](http://www.omiru.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/womens-plus-kimono-tops_061708.jpg) with an undershirt. I wouldn’t wear the “I’m Your Upgrade” T-shirt, and if I did, it would not be with painted-on jorts no matter my size. However. T-shirts are not the acme of fashion. Do you expect a girl to wear a stupid shirt with pearls, a miniskirt, and designer heels? It’s like being upset that a tuxedo shirt isn’t worn with a tailcoat. And honestly, spending that much of your time and effort and life snapping a surreptitious photo of a fashion victim is pretty damn pathetic. It reminds me of this kid who teased me in high school following me down the hallway taunting me. Finally I just turned around and asked him “Do you have nothing better to do than follow me around?” “No!” he said proudly. I just stared at him for a moment, slackjawed, before replying “That’s really, really sad” and walking off. I have shit to DO in my life, I don’t have time to troll Walmart for Roddy Redneck. Ehh… that said, I would rather wear the trash bag. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/289 "2010-06-16T16:11:16Z")
Well, in minor defense of Ms. Upgrade, she doesn’t necessarily need to wear knee length shorts and three layers to cover her fat either. There’s a middle ground, particularly if she’s younger (it sort of looks like she is). For instance, my 24 year old fat self is wearing [these glorious shorty shorts](http://www.torrid.com/torrid/store/product.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302036088&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442221165&bmUID=1276704228391) and a long, banded bottom tank top with studs on the shoulder (also from Torrid, but not on their site even though I bought it yesterday). I would look like the worst kind of mom if I was wearing shorts that went beyond mid thigh-- I’d also look much bigger than I am. Certainly for work I will layer under my button ups (boobs = not being always being able to fully button a button up, so camis are handy), but most days I just wear one shirt, thank you. I’m trying to think if I have any shirts with stuff written on them. . . hmm, I have a “Nixon in 78” shirt because it is hilarious, then nothing more. When I was a teenager I bought a really lame “I’m not with stupid anymore” shirt, but- in my defense- that was 10 years ago that I bought it. Yeah, word shirts are inherently tacky, but if she’s a teenager, it isn’t really THAT bad. I mean, poor choice of message to put out, but I’m talking the general style. Oh, and of course it needs to be like 3 sizes bigger. Also, I do take issue with this previously presented idea that someone can’t be fat and dress stylishly on the cheap. Walmart and Target (Target especially) have surprisingly nice plus size lines that are trendy and cheap. I’m also laughing at the idea that all Lane Bryant sells is short shorts and crop tops-- I haven’t shopped there in a looooong time because it’s all so frumpy dumpy. I guess you can’t please everyone. Anywho, I think we can all agree that homegirl in the picture just needs to realize she isn’t a size 10, man up, and get some clothes that fit. I remember when I was 14 and I used to squeeeeeeeeeeeeze myself into a size 9 pair of jeans because I did not want to stop shopping at Forever 21 with my friends. I used to get cuts on my stomach from how tight my jeans were. Looking back, I realize how stupid that was, but hey, kids are dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/290 "2010-06-16T16:17:01Z")
I would like to thank this thread for introducing me to [poorlydressed.com](http://poorlydressed.com). ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/291 "2010-06-16T16:24:59Z")
> [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](#): > > See… Upgrade girl gave me the same immediate mental reaction I would have had from seeing her in person: “Oh honey, NO.”\ I have that reaction seeing what other women are wearing a lot, too. Most of the time it’s a perfectly normal-looking girl squeezed into something completely inappropriate for her - she could look so much better, but she’s wearing the wrong style or the wrong size or whatever. One thing I appreciate about the show “What Not To Wear” is that they never bitch someone out for being too fat; they always support people finding clothes that FIT and are APPROPRIATE in whatever size it is. > [@](#): > > I don’t have time to troll Walmart for Roddy Redneck.\. And we have sites to do that for us! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/292 "2010-06-16T16:29:14Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I have that reaction seeing what other women are wearing a lot, too. Most of the time it’s a perfectly normal-looking girl squeezed into something completely inappropriate for her - she could look so much better, but she’s wearing the wrong style or the wrong size or whatever. One thing I appreciate about the show “What Not To Wear” is that they never bitch someone out for being too fat; they always support people finding clothes that FIT and are APPROPRIATE in whatever size it is. This. It’s amazing what a difference something that fits and is right for your body can make- it can easily make a fat girl go from looking like the size 22 she is to several sizes smaller. The most common mistake I see with fat girls surprisingly isn’t wearing clothes like Upgrade girl, but rather, women so ashamed of their bodies that they wear big ol tents to cover up their fat. I like to think I cover my fat sufficiently, but I get compliments all the time about how I dress- from fat and skinny folks alike. Confidence is the sexiest thing, but I think Miss Upgrade took it a step too far. . . ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/293 "2010-06-16T16:36:26Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > The most common mistake I see with fat girls surprisingly isn’t wearing clothes like Upgrade girl, but rather, women so ashamed of their bodies that they wear big ol tents to cover up their fat. Right, and those tents aren’t doing anyone any favors. I’m a bit, err, chesty, and I try make a point of buying tops that don’t scream “EVERYBODY LOOK!” It’s sometimes tempting to buy tent shirts, but instead of minimizing up top, they make me look like a giant cow. People, the tents make everyone look bad. They make skinny girls look fat, and they make fat girls look fucking fat. Just say no. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/294 "2010-06-16T16:39:06Z")
And an empire waistlines make everyone look pregnant. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/295 "2010-06-16T17:00:28Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > And an empire waistlines make everyone look pregnant. SERIOUSLY. The only reason to wear an empire waist blouse or dress is because you want people to think you are in maternity wear. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/296 "2010-06-16T17:05:43Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Right, and those tents aren’t doing anyone any favors. I’m a bit, err, chesty, and I try make a point of buying tops that don’t scream “EVERYBODY LOOK!” It’s sometimes tempting to buy tent shirts, but instead of minimizing up top, they make me look like a giant cow. People, the tents make everyone look bad. They make skinny girls look fat, and they make fat girls look fucking fat. Just say no. Amen to this. I have big boobs and everyone cracks jokes about them (thanks, assholes!), sometimes even suggesting I wear a turtle neck. So fine, once I bought a turtle neck just to show them why I don’t wear turtle necks. Sure, my tits are covered, but they look FREAKING ENORMOUS if there is just one solid piece of fabric over them. Like, porno big. And to empire waists: I remember telling my pregnant friend that she better wear the fuck out of empire waist shirts for all of us that can’t. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/297 "2010-06-16T18:13:55Z")
I like empire waists just because the term is such a shibboleth, when you hear people actually say it out loud. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/298 "2010-06-16T18:22:08Z")
What? Do some people say “umpire waists?” I do not understand. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/299 "2010-06-16T18:42:58Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > What? Do some people say “umpire waists?” I do not understand. In the context of fashion, it’s pronounced more like “ahm-PEER.” ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036/300 "2010-06-16T18:55:55Z")
I’ve always called them tops with the tit compartment. It is not unusual to see me at Macy’s (not putting the star there) grimacing at the selection, asking “Why do they make shirts with tit compartments?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/because-you-have-the-technology-does-not-make-it-ok-to-use-it-asshole/543036.md?page=16)