# Been seeing a lot of bare bumpers lately...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 10, 2004, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085 "2004-11-10T21:42:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/21 "2004-11-11T00:32:43Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> When you find out to your shock and horror that half the nation voted for Bush, you don’t want to make your car an easy target for mouth-breathing right-wing vandals, knowhutImean?

Funny, this is precisely the reason my mom had me remove her Bush bumper sticker.

My sister and I tried to tell her that political bumper stickers were a bad idea (because some people are whacked) but she didn’t listen. How that she sees how divisive and angry things have gotten, she understands the wisdom of No Political Bumper Stickers. And actually, one of my friends had his car vandalized during the last election because he _dared_ to have a Bush bumper sticker. So you never can be too careful.

I’m planning on getting a Yosemite National Park bumper sticker for my mom’s car instead. 😉

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/22 "2004-11-11T00:34:50Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Jesus, I still see Clinton/Gore bumperstickers 'round here. The OP is just seeing (or not seeing) what he wants.

That’s nothin’. Around the time Clinton got impeached, I saw an old Lincoln Towncar with a Mondale/Ferrarro bumper sticker. That would be, what, 15 years old?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/23 "2004-11-11T00:40:26Z")

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> [@midget](#):
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> I put quotes around “most liberal” so I wouldn’t have to spend my time defending the complete accuracy of the statement (which I’m not). Several publications have ranked him as one of the top 3 liberal senators a few years before he even started campaigning. I think it can be agreed that he is farther left than the majority of Democrats.
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> OK, bad wording. How about "this observation seems to me to imply that Kerry was a bad choice for a Democratic candidate.

Hardly. Considering that he now has the second highest popular vote count in our nation’s history, IIRC, I wouldn’t say he was a bad choice. The man is intelligent, talented, and a decent human being, from what I’ve seen.

As for “most liberal,”, and “farther left”, I’m not even going to touch that ridiculous statement with a ten foot pole.

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**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/24 "2004-11-11T00:42:04Z")

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> [@Genghis Bob](#):
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> . . . now, I can’t wait to get my “Don’t blame me, I voted for Kerry” bumper sticker – that one I’ll keep on until January 2009!

. . . so get it! I gave you a link. 😃

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/25 "2004-11-11T01:00:01Z")

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> [@yosemite](#):
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> Funny, this is precisely the reason my mom had me remove her Bush bumper sticker.

Remind your Mom that the liberals protest to _prevent_ wars that the conservatives start. 🙂

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/26 "2004-11-11T01:07:06Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> You know, how much more of this taunting and “Ha ha, suckers, you lose!!!” are we going to have to listen to? Does it make you feel good about yourselves? Does it make you feel superior?

That’s the very reason I sadly peeled off my Kerry/Edwards bumper sticker Wed. morning.

So, **midget** , is there a preferred waiting period that one should observe before peeling off one’s political bumper sticker post-election? Because I didn’t get the memo.

:wally

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/27 "2004-11-11T01:08:43Z")

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Well here in Silcon Valley there are still plenty of cars with Kerry/Edwards stickers. Though to me they seem like Xmas decorations in February, they are now out of date and should be removed. As should Bush for president stickers as well.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/28 "2004-11-11T01:16:13Z")

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How many variations of “Don’t Blame Me, I Voted For Kodos” have you seen so far?

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/29 "2004-11-11T01:37:23Z")

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> [@Steve MB](#):
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> How many variations of “Don’t Blame Me, I Voted For Kodos” have you seen so far?

[Like this](http://www.cafepress.com/cp/browse/Ntt-kodos_Nao-1_Ntk-All_N-0_pv-rockpapersaddam.12387708_No-1)?

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**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/30 "2004-11-11T01:41:08Z")

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> [@Troy McClure SF](#):
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> [Like this](http://www.cafepress.com/cp/browse/Ntt-kodos_Nao-1_Ntk-All_N-0_pv-rockpapersaddam.12387708_No-1)?

HOLY SHIT!!! $6.99 for a fucking bumper sticker? That’s a **$4.50** markup!

Who the hell would pay that?

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**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/31 "2004-11-11T01:57:56Z")

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I drive for about an hour doing chores and back every other day. The chores being kid-related, I would see dozens of “Child on Board” yellow signs on a suction cup daily. How many have I seen lately, you might ask? …None. Not a single one. In the thousands of cars I’ve passed in the past month, I haven’t spotted a single “Child on Board” sign.

**This has got to be the best evidence that parents don’t really care about their kids anymore.**

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/32 "2004-11-11T02:01:26Z")

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Just what we needed, another lame thread to gloat about the “landslide mandate”. Give it a rest. Maybe I’ll make up a sticker that says “Don’t blame me, I voted for Cthulhu”.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/33 "2004-11-11T02:09:15Z")

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> [@caphis](#):
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> HOLY SHIT!!! $6.99 for a fucking bumper sticker? That’s a **$4.50** markup!
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> Who the hell would pay that?

Well, I don’t imagine it’d last long being a blatant copyright infringement, so I guess they figured, “Let’s go for it while we still can.”

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/34 "2004-11-11T02:14:20Z")

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> [@caphis](#):
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> HOLY SHIT!!! $6.99 for a fucking bumper sticker? That’s a **$4.50** markup!
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> Who the hell would pay that?

People who voted for Kodos, obviously.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/35 "2004-11-11T02:14:43Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> Remind your Mom that the liberals protest to _prevent_ wars that the conservatives start.

My mom is a pretty sharp cookie and can figure out things for herself, really. :rolleyes:

She was just naive about the bumper sticker thing. Some of you may remember that occasionally I’ll start on a “No Religious-related or Political Bumper Sticker” mantra. I believe this. My dad believed this and always refused to have \*any[/i bumper stickers on his car. You never know who is going to become unhinged, on _either_ side, at any moment. It’s a small risk, perhaps, but I don’t need to worry about it, and after seeing my friend get his car vandalized—no thanks. I’m a little more relaxed than my dad—I have travel and joke stickers on my car and that’s pretty much it.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/36 "2004-11-11T02:16:26Z")

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> [@yosemite](#):
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> I’m planning on getting a Yosemite National Park bumper sticker for my mom’s car instead. 😉

She’ll just get her windshield smashed by some freak who prefers Yellowstone.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/37 "2004-11-11T02:19:32Z")

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> [@midget](#):
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> This wasn’t intended as a “ha ha we won and you didn’t, etc. etc.” post.

That’s funny **midget** , because your first post came off as kind of dickish.

> [@midget](#):
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> I can’t shake the hilarious mental image of thousands of Democrats trudging to the garage immediately after the final results to peel off their brand. This has got to be the best evidence that Democrats really made a piss-poor choice for candidate this year, and they knew it. “Most liberal” senator? What were they thinking?! If they had chosen just about anyone else, he could very well be sitting in the White House right now.

:dubious:

Maybe you could point out the part where the gloating stopped. It would certainly help clear things up for me.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/38 "2004-11-11T14:15:47Z")

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> [@midget](#):
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> I put quotes around “most liberal” so I wouldn’t have to spend my time defending the complete accuracy of the statement (which I’m not).

So you posted something that you knew to be untrue, but you did the equivalent of crossing your fingers, so you think it’s all right? Your OP doesn’t make any sense if the “Most liberal” was meant ironically. I just think you’re blowing smoke out your ass.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/39 "2004-11-11T18:43:51Z")

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Here in a solidly blue portion of barely-red Ohio, I’m still seeing plenty of Kerry-Edwards stickers on cars. I still have mine on.

Most of the signs are gone. Most municipal sign codes require removal of political signs from one to seven days after the election.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/been-seeing-a-lot-of-bare-bumpers-lately/274085/40 "2004-11-11T19:05:07Z")

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> [@midget](#):
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> Bleh…
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> This wasn’t intended as a “ha ha we won and you didn’t, etc. etc.” post.

Really? Could fooled me. It seemed to clearly be one of thos posts.

> [@](#):
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> I put quotes around “most liberal” so I wouldn’t have to spend my time defending the complete accuracy of the statement (which I’m not). Several publications have ranked him as one of the top 3 liberal senators a few years before he even started campaigning. I think it can be agreed that he is farther left than the majority of Democrats.

So quotes make falsehoods completely accurate in your eyes? Or they make falsehoods immune from defense of said statements?

AFAIK, terming Kerry the most liberal senator was 100% false and judged by the standards that were decided upon for the ranking, he was number 11 or something.  
Sam

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