# Before I close down tonight  , this is for Kambucta  :-

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 19, 2002, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478 "2002-04-19T07:13:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/61 "2002-04-23T23:07:08Z")

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Hump’erdick and Thatchair would make a great couple.

BTW, this reminds me of that German woman who was in love with a wall. I wonder how she’s doing these days.

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/62 "2002-04-23T23:43:06Z")

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Ah, here she is: [The woman who married the Berlin Wall](http://www.guillotine.net/BerlinWall/index.htm)

In [this](http://www.guillotine.net/BerlinWall/tragedy.htm) page she says it was a tragedy when parts of it (sorry, “him”) were torn down in 1989 but she still sees “him” as “he” was before. (And it was wrong for the two Germanys to unite and tear the wall down)

> [@](#):
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> It was wrong that Germany is united again. It was better with DDR and West Germany. And… It’s wrong to attack the Wall because of human stupidity and disrespect for objects. It’s wrong to ship parts of him to USA and other places. The Berlin Wall is a German being - and it’s beyond all forgiveness to treat him like they have done, USA, Germany or any other country that is involved. I put my final blame on those countries.
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> For me the Berlin Wall EXISTS as he was in his prime! I will always love him.

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**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/63 "2002-04-24T01:40:23Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by blanx \*  
> \*\*Perhaps we should have a scale of obsession, to rate a poster’s fixation on a particular issue/person.
> 
> The question, and I open this to the floor for debate, is what the units of measurement should be?
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> I’m thinking a logarithmic scale, measured in JRT’s… but hey, that could just be me.
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> Or, perhaps, degrees deeward?
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> blanx \*\*

Ahem, I believe that in the a **fore** mentioned post you neglected to spell check and as a result, the name of the proposed unit of measure was **mutilated, permanently altared and horribly disfigured** withouts its consent.

This sort of thing just gets under my **skin**. Your refusal to preview implies a certain amont of **insensitivity** on your **part**. If your proofreading abilities were **intact** you would have been able to **circum** vent this error.

Your words **tug** at my heart and shout **ahoy** in my ear but I am no **longer** interested in hearing them. They fall like rain on a desert but leave only **a damp spot** in the sands of time and memory.

I believe you need to type J **D** T until it is as **firm** in your memory as it is in mine. It would serve you right.

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**Author:** ![Redboss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8baadc/32.png) [@Redboss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redboss)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/64 "2002-04-24T07:43:07Z")

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brilliant coda, **fishlady**!

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**Author:** ![kuroashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e9a140/32.png) [@kuroashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kuroashi)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/65 "2002-04-24T08:03:31Z")

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this place is weird

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/66 "2002-04-24T08:23:58Z")

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With what are you comparing this place kuroashi? I bet your household is weirder! Mine certainly is…(as eminem and J.S. Bach compete for ‘airspace’ within a 14 square house)…interesting combination really: maybe some recording entrepreneur should look at the possibilities.

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**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/67 "2002-04-24T09:23:54Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by kuroashi \*  
> \*\*this place is weird \*\*

And for that I am grateful _EVERY SINGLE DAY!_

🆒

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**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/68 "2002-04-24T14:11:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Redboss \*  
> \*\*brilliant coda, **fishlady**! \*\*

Thanks RB, I think. I hope this doesn’t inadvertently increase my JDT’s in regard to him. Just because so many of his catch phrases and favorite words seem to be burned into my memory with a branding iron does not mean that I admire or even like him. In fact:- I hate him:- I hate him:- I hate him.

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**Author:** ![deeward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@deeward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deeward)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/69 "2002-04-25T00:54:47Z")

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Well, I hoped there would be a lockdown on these posts, as there should be, but I see there’s still the killing feilds here.

It’s been 16 posts ago since I apologized etc. but you continue to milk everything you can out of the subject. Why do you do that? It’s such meanness . It’s as though you enjoy hurting.

There’s such mean-spirited stuff here!

I’m hoping there’s also some compassion in you somewhere, so you can allow yourselves to feel for another, instead of expending so much harsh judgement.

I’ll tell you what; …If I stick my neck out and do some disclosing would you get off my back and try to show me some understanding?

I’m hoping for a more compassionate attitude. It’s the constructive thing ; the prevailing attitude now is so destructive.,…and SO mean!

If I expose a few things would you promise to stop cutting me up?

Can I get a promise from you to adopt a more kind attitude, and try to be understanding?

I’ve got to know you’ll try or I can’t say anything. (Hey, some of it may go into a book one day)

Dee

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/70 "2002-04-25T01:12:22Z")

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Dee, nobody is attacking you! While some of the posts certainly seem to be ‘taking the mickey’ out of your interest in Engelbert, they are, from what I’ve read, lighthearted and very tongue-in-cheek. They are not mean-spirited. If you are indeed hurt by them, perhaps that is something YOU need to address.

Oh, and I ain’t promising nuthin’, but I’d LOVE to hear more about the story!

Really.  
I’ll TRY to be compassionate, but you’ve gotta promise not to run and sulk in the corner if someone doesn’t see things quite the way you do.

That’s a fair deal, dontcha reckon?😃

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/71 "2002-04-25T01:13:48Z")

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I don’t think anyone’s really making fun of you now, so much as just joking around, but if you like I can be serious.  
But Bob Goulet does suck.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/72 "2002-04-25T01:17:05Z")

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Oh, and I’d like to add that Glenn Miller is the sexiest musician ever to walk the planet. He certainly puts me “in the mood”…  
😉

( **deeward** -if you like, though, you can laugh at me for my crush on Glenn Miller. I don’t mind. I’m not making fun of you, either. Glenn Miller is pretty weird, at least for a crush, I think. I also have a crush on King Aleksandar of Yugoslavia, who was assasinated in 1934.)

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**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/73 "2002-04-25T01:27:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Atreyu \*  
> \*\*
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by kuroashi \*  
> > \*\*this place is weird \*\*
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> And for that I am grateful _EVERY SINGLE DAY!_
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> 🆒 \*\*

Amen to those sentiments, **kuroashi** and **Atreyu**! That’s partly why I **love** this place! 🙂

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> \*Originally posted by The Mermaid \*  
> **…my JDT’s…**

And what, pray tell, are JDT’s? Something **Deeward** something… that’s all I can come up with… (so it’s not much… my brain isn’t working today for some reason)

> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by deeward \*  
> **If I expose a few things would you promise to stop cutting me up?**

You **know** there’s a joke just waiting to be made here… any ideas? 😉 Like, maybe if he exposes it, we **will** cut him up? 😛

And you know, Dee… we’re just joking around now! It’s certainly nothing serious or mean… if you think it is, then perhaps that’s something you need to address. If someone deosn’t have the same views as you do, please don’t run and hide while nursing a huge grudge or anything! The story you refer to could be quite interesting; we’ll be understanding!

On preview, I see that **kambuckta** has interpreted things the same way as I did… you see, that’s a good thing! Really, it is! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/74 "2002-04-25T01:28:43Z")

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**Deeward**  
If you really want this to die off, just leave it alone. I also ought to warn you that if you claim in a Pit thread that you carried Engelbert Humperdinck’s love child, much hilarity, largely at your expense, _will_ ensue. If you really want to make such a revelation, at the very least you’d better do it in MPSIMS.

There, that was my good deed for the month. I’m only 138 behind now.

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**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/75 "2002-04-25T02:07:27Z")

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I certainly hope no one mistook my opportunity to show off my knowledge of Jack Dean Tyler’s obcession and inevitible meltdown as a dig at deeward.

Those of you who know who JDT was also know exactly what I was talking about. Those of you who don’t know who this guy was should just do a search for his posts and threads discussing him. Simply put the man was obessed with foreskin–his, yours and the whole fucking worlds—no really.

Hang in there dee, you’ll be all right.

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**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/76 "2002-04-25T08:12:50Z")

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I thank **The Mermaid** for giving me an excuse to use the search engine at a reasonably fast board time… my God, you’re right! :eek:

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2002, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/77 "2002-04-25T12:03:56Z")

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So, c’mon deeward…when are you going to give us the ‘straight-dope’ on the reasons for your ‘infatuation’ with E. H.???

My impatience is killing me!!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2002, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/78 "2002-04-26T01:54:07Z")

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Tell us, oh please oh please oh please?

I promise I’ll try and be nice!

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**Author:** ![deeward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@deeward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deeward)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2002, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/79 "2002-04-27T07:07:42Z")

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I had this all written out with adequate detail, but at the last moment , decided not to post it for fear of opening another Pandora’s box.

One thing that it’s necessary to do in order to understand this is to keep in mind a picture of the person involved here as he was when young. If you don’t , there’s no sense to it.

This will be very short , and , to some extent leave something to the imagination. “Those who will see will see” (bible). As far as I’m concered there’s no trouble connecting the dots and is sufficent as it is.

This is about a young woman seized by an affliction that causes her to black out without any warning . It’s a type of Epilepsy. (no “fits”).  
About extreme poverty , and desolate loneliness.

About devestation from the lack of trust in life and people, and about the dam breaking when it was long overdue to break.

It’s about the darkness falling on the wings of night and a big bottle of pills.

About a light turned on and a life lifted.

It’s also about a fan club and destiny’s gift at destiny’s time.

A beautiful touch; a beautiful voice, and beautiful heart and a very beautiful face.

It is also about two kinds of records: one being a small “45” and a voice that spoke to us expressing appreciation for support. (He called us “Little Devils”)

About a return from a trip to Las Vegas and a quickening of the senses that made me remember something. A listening to the voice on that small record and the dam breaking again , and with it, my composure.

Let that suffice, and you can put the peices together yourself.

Now me be. THIS CONVERSATION IS ENDED .

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2002, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/before-i-close-down-tonight-this-is-for-kambucta/104478/80 "2002-04-27T10:43:16Z")

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So let me get this right.  
At the nadir of your pretty miserable life, E.H. came along and touched something within you that allowed you to see things in a different light?  
Is that it?

Well, I still don’t see what all the bloody fuss was about Deeward. That sort of thing has probably happened to most of us at one time or other during our lives. I could roll out poets and muso’s who have saved my sanity on occasion.  
But the meaning I find in those words and relationship with the artist is MY MEANING and I don’t expect others to see things the same way.  
In fact, I’d probably get jealous if they DID!!

I don’t give a flying fuck whether YOU admire my heart-throbs or not. They’re MINE!  
And just between you and me, I wouldn’t play the victim here too much either. Wailing about people being out to get you is a bit rich, especially in a community as (mostly) understanding and sympathetic as the Doper bunch seem to be. It really does almost sound like you get your jollies out of posting contentious stuff, then sitting around miserably wondering what on earth you have done to deserve such responses.

But all the same, take care and be careful!!

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