# begbert2 cannot debate like an adult

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 12, 2009, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/begbert2-cannot-debate-like-an-adult/506167 "2009-08-12T13:02:02Z")
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### Author: ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/begbert2-cannot-debate-like-an-adult/506167/31 "2009-08-17T23:11:34Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Nice choice of analogy.
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> Except of course that some Egoists do cite the pleasure we get from, say, working in a soup kitchen, as proof that that is what motivates us to do such things.  
> So it’s not a straw man, unlike ‘It’s wrong to eat your BABIES!!!’

It’s not a strawman to say that some Egoists do cite the pleasure we get from, say, working in a soup kitchen, as proof that that is what motivates us to do such things.

But that’s not what you said, now is it. You proposed that:

> [@Why are we alive?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-are-we-alive/504200/119):
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> 1. Getting our own way tends to make us happy. But that is _never_ the reason for doing something.  
> If you were losing a war, you wouldn’t think “OK, I’m going to make _losing_ be my objective so I can experience the happiness of getting my way!”.

See, now _this_ is as stupid as the claim that Egoists eat babies. And it _is_ just as much a strawman as that would be.

I can understand how you would be ashamed that you posted this - it’s a _damned_ stupid strawman. And I can understand that you’re not man enough to admit that, yes, you really did post this moronic strawman. And I can understand that you’re so intellectually dishonest that you would feel justified in trying to pretend you _didn’t_ post something so incredibly stupid, leading you to try to shift the goalpost to a less stupid argument.

The thing I _can’t_ believe is that you would be so **unbelievably** stupid as to think that you’re going to convince anybody that you didn’t say what you said. I mean, your prior post is still _around_. I keep _quoting_ it at you. You can’t _possibly_ convince anyone you didn’t make that retarded strawman.

Yet, you seem to believe you can. I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised, but **MAN** , is that some industrial-grade stupid there, to think you can convince us that reality isn’t what it is, right here, quoted for all to see. _Man._

You are something else.

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