# Behaviours still done though they're no longer needed **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 21, 2020, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257 "2020-04-21T08:35:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/41 "2020-04-21T20:07:46Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > I have been told that it really depends on the dishwasher model. Some have a food grinder/disposal built in which takes care of the bigger bits. Others do not, and require rinsing the bigger bits off before putting in the dishwasher. A food grinder does nothing for the bits still stuck on the dishes. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/42 "2020-04-21T20:09:40Z")
Regarding sausages, if we are talking about a typical british one with a natural skin and a decent amount of fat then pricking them can be sensible depending on the method of cooking. A gentle oven baking for 45 minutes can allow controlled and slow release of fat from the ends of the sausage with little risk of explosive decompression. In a hotter pan or grill however the skin can scorch and toughen then split and high-pressure juices from inside can spill out (if you are lucky) or worse, jet out onto the cooker top (messy) or onto the grill flame/element (messy, smelly and burn-y). For those last two methods, some small holes can relieve the pressure. So for oven-cooking, pricking not needed. Grill or pan? might be a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/43 "2020-04-21T20:19:11Z")
Random reactions while I’m savoring a glass of red wine: > [@SanVito](#): > > I know this isn’t food related but… typing a double space after a full stop (period). It was done in the age of typewriters when monospaced alphabets made sentence endings harder to read. Typesetters (a long forgotten skilled trade) never did this, and modern day typists shouldn’t either. I remember that an American professor I had during my post-university studies required that we should type double space after a full stop when we wrote our work _on the computer_. We were not aware of the old typists’ rule and could never figure out why a single space did not suffice. > [@SanVito](#): > > Cooking pork well done. This was probably because pigs used to be given any old crap to eat, including meat. And lack of refrigeration. Problems that no longer exist - pork is fine to eat under done. I dislike any type of meat that is under done. But I’ve drastically reduced my meat intake and almost eliminated red meat from my diet. * * * I don’t know if it fits but I’ve always had lunch/dinner in cafeterias where I ate fruit as a dessert \*after \*the meal. Nowadays I have the fruit \*before \*the meal. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/44 "2020-04-21T22:08:36Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > It’s difficult to purchase pork that isn’t salted even though the preservatives already in it are doing the job salt was used for. Where are you? Plain pork with neither salt nor any other preservatives added to it is very commonly sold in the USA. ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/45 "2020-04-21T22:17:00Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Regarding sausages, if we are talking about a typical british one with a natural skin and a decent amount of fat then pricking them can be sensible depending on the method of cooking. A gentle oven baking for 45 minutes can allow controlled and slow release of fat from the ends of the sausage with little risk of explosive decompression. In a hotter pan or grill however the skin can scorch and toughen then split and high-pressure juices from inside can spill out (if you are lucky) or worse, jet out onto the cooker top (messy) or onto the grill flame/element (messy, smelly and burn-y). For those last two methods, some small holes can relieve the pressure. > > So for oven-cooking, pricking not needed. Grill or pan? might be a good idea. I routinely cook them in the oven, fair enough…but when I don’t, I still don’t prick them. Frying pan, barbecue, nah. Just keep an eye. They might split but I’ve never known them to explode. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/46 "2020-04-22T02:39:10Z")
> [@Doug\_K](#): > > But that causes it to not capitalize where it is needed. > > But I’ve been repeatedly told that the software will put the same amount of space between sentences regardless of how many space characters are in the document. In fact, I just tested it here by typing about a dozen spaces after each occurrence of the word “document”. Do you see any excessive spacing here? That’s a feature specific to this message board software. If you are using Word then spaces are preserved. ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/47 "2020-04-22T02:45:04Z")
Wearing underwear under your swim trunks. From what I understand before netting came standard you normally wore briefs under your trunks to prevent the outline of a man’s penis from being seen when everything was wet and sticking but since then you’re not suppose to since the fabric in the briefs will get loose and might drift out and clog the drain. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/48 "2020-04-22T03:46:42Z")
Revving the engine for a while on cold mornings to get the motor warmed up. (Does anybody still do this anymore?) ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/49 "2020-04-22T03:58:36Z")
> [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > That’s a feature specific to this message board software. If you are using Word then spaces are preserved. Not just this board, raw HTML does it too. If you want more than one space in HTML you need to use non-breaking spaces, ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/50 "2020-04-22T04:01:59Z")
> [@lobotomyboy63](#): > > Miller says he has heard that this has been used as a method of screening out older candidates. And why would they want to screen out older candidates? :dubious: Not to mention that age discrimination is illegal in many places. Yes, I know - good luck proving it. ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/51 "2020-04-22T04:07:49Z")
> [@Doug K.](#): > > But I’ve been repeatedly told that the software will put the same amount of space between sentences regardless of how many space characters are in the document. In fact, I just tested it here by typing about a dozen spaces after each occurrence of the word “document”. Do you see any excessive spacing here? > [@Richard Pearse](#): > > That’s a feature specific to this message board software. If you are using Word then spaces are preserved. Actually, it’s the default behavior of HTML, not just vBulletin. Doug’s extra spaces are preserved, just not displayed in the normal page rendering. If you deliberately want extra spaces to appear on a web page, you need to use non-breaking spaces, the symbol for which is \*\* \*\*. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/52 "2020-04-22T05:35:46Z")
> [@SanVito](#): > > We’re going off topic, but most printers ask for a PDF to print from these days to avoid such issues. Even from files created in Indesign - it just avoids handling errors or missing font problems. We send PDFs and printouts with out our InDesign stuff, so that the printers can see what it’s supposed to look like. PDF doesn’t magically handle missing font problems – you’ll get substitution or errors depending on what font is missing. And the font size depends on what kind of system you are using to view/print it. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/53 "2020-04-22T06:12:14Z")
> [@Melbourne](#): > > We send PDFs and printouts with out our InDesign stuff, so that the printers can see what it’s supposed to look like. PDF doesn’t magically handle missing font problems – you’ll get substitution or errors depending on what font is missing. And the font size depends on what kind of system you are using to view/print it. Huh? Every PDF I’ve exported has given me the option to include fonts. That’s like, the entire purpose of PDF. And in the rare case where PDF wasn’t an option or there was some other obstacle, I just converted the text to outline, and that mooted any potential font issues. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/54 "2020-04-22T07:27:31Z")
> [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](#): > > I routinely cook them in the oven, fair enough…but when I don’t, I still don’t prick them. Frying pan, barbecue, nah. Just keep an eye. They might split but I’ve never known them to explode. But I suspect, from what I’ve read of your posts, that you have some sympathy for your food and you probably are gentle enough with your sausages for pricking not to be an issue for you. (I don’t prick them under any circumstances either) ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/55 "2020-04-22T08:23:19Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > But I suspect, from what I’ve read of your posts, that you have some sympathy for your food and you probably are gentle enough with your sausages for pricking not to be an issue for you. (I don’t prick them under any circumstances either) Well, thank you very much! I like to think so. There was an advert (might have been a BBC Food thing actually) with Gary Rhodes scaling a cliff to tell somebody who was about to cook bangers on their camping stove that the secret is not to prick them. That was a few years back now though; I don’t know how widespread a practice it still is. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/56 "2020-04-22T13:34:02Z")
Do any shade tree mechanics still put their car batteries on a piece of wood rather than bare cement? ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/57 "2020-04-22T14:14:25Z")
> [@TRC4941](#): > > I do that with bacon. When I fry bacon I cut the slices in half because my mom always did. She did it because she fried my dad’s bacon and eggs every morning in a small cast iron frying pan. The bacon didn’t fit in there full length. It just seems right to me to do it that way, even though my pan is bigger.😃 This is a good idea because bacon curling means it is hard to get each piece to cook evenly. Cutting bacon before cooking is much better for even cooking. ---
**Author:** ![Esprise\_Me](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprise_me/32/2947_2.png) [@Esprise\_Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprise_Me)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/58 "2020-04-22T14:43:29Z")
My MIL still dials “1” before an area code on her cell phone. ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/59 "2020-04-22T14:56:34Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > Huh? Every PDF I’ve exported has given me the option to include fonts. That’s like, the entire purpose of PDF. And in the rare case where PDF wasn’t an option or there was some other obstacle, I just converted the text to outline, and that mooted any potential font issues. Yeah, I didn’t get what Melbourne was saying either. If fonts are missing in the InDesign file, then they’ll look as dodgy on a print out as on a PDF. InDesign flags missing fonts/images when you save a PDF anyway (which is effectively the same process as sending a file to print). Besides which, any printer we use always sends back a digital proof (either physical or just via email) as a double check in any case. Sorry folks, total sidetrack to the thread. Although it probably does count as a ‘behaviour that’s no longer needed’. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257/60 "2020-04-22T16:51:12Z")
> [@Esprise\_Me](#): > > My MIL still dials “1” before an area code on her cell phone. I still type “www” before a web address. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/behaviours-still-done-though-theyre-no-longer-needed/852257.md?page=4)