# Being a butt-calling racist is not conducive for employment **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 28, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571 "2013-05-28T19:25:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/1 "2013-05-28T19:25:36Z")
[Angry Papa John’s customer posts delivery man’s racist voicemail online](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/27/angry-papa-johns-customer-posts-delivery-mans-racist-voicemail-online/) Synoposis: Black dude gives a pizza delivery guy a $5 tip on a $15.26 tab. The delivery guy butt-calls the dude in the middle of a colorful tirade about the tip. And by colorful, I mean very racist and ignorant. Dude records all of it so that we and Papa John’s management can share in the yucks. Delivery guy and his laugh-along coworker have been fired. My question is how much are white people tipping?? $5 dollars seems like decent tip to me, but maybe I’m just a silly negro. I know there is a stereotype about black folk and maybe there’s some truth to it (personally I always tip and tip generously, as do all the black folk I know well). But in this case, this is some fracklenackle bull! I almost feel sorry for dickwad delivery guy. Maybe if his greedy asshole of an employer had actually paid him a decent wage, a $5 tip wouldn’t be such a slap to his precious little face. Too bad he didn’t direct his ire in a more productive manner. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/2 "2013-05-28T19:31:10Z")
Wow if white people are tipping more than $5 on a $15 tab I am a sad sad specimen of white people. I’d tip $2 MAYBE $3 on that. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/3 "2013-05-28T19:32:13Z")
$15.26 pizza? I round up to $20. - A White Guy ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/4 "2013-05-28T19:37:17Z")
Yeah, I’d probably say fuck it, let’s do 20. Delivery guy is a moron. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/5 "2013-05-28T19:42:31Z")
Another white guy who’d give him a $20 and say keep the change. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/6 "2013-05-28T19:42:31Z")
I don’t think the customer tipped. The call goes, “Did he tip you?” “Nope, not at all.” I’m guessing the reference to $5 was that someone who gave him $5 would be a fine representative of the African-American community or something. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/7 "2013-05-28T19:49:49Z")
I think myself as at least a half decent tipping honky. Let me put it this way. 5 dollars on a 15 dollar pizza? If I was the victim of that butt call I wouldn’t be mad that he basically called me a cheap NEGRO but that he called me a CHEAP negro if you know what I mean. Unless he delivered it 50 miles in a blizzard or something. Geez, AskthePizzaGuy? had a thread here recently. He said about HALF the people didn’t tip ANYTHING. Even on LARGE orders. By comparison a 30 percent tip is right up there with free hookers and blow. Oh, so maybe the guy didn’t tip anything? Well glad he got a butthurt butt call then. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/8 "2013-05-28T19:50:56Z")
I can’t listen from work, but I can’t believe even an ignorant racist would complain about a 33% tip. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/9 "2013-05-28T19:53:32Z")
Having worked in pizza, I think he just wasn’t tipped. And I’ve heard a lot of racist rants in the pizza business, although never this bad and never this stupid. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/10 "2013-05-28T19:54:32Z")
Well, white guys tip around 100%. But it’s still about $5, because we get the secret pizza prices for white people. ---
**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/11 "2013-05-28T19:55:19Z")
I typically tip $3 on a standard pizza delivery. More if they’re delivering a lot of stuff…but just a pizza…typically $3. If $5 is considered a lousy tip, then I guess I’m a horrible tipper. I figure tipping 20% is a pretty decent tip, frankly. Especially since I’m paying $2 for a delivery fee already from Papa Johns. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/12 "2013-05-28T20:00:07Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > Wow if white people are tipping more than $5 on a $15 tab I am a sad sad specimen of white people. I’d tip $2 MAYBE $3 on that. Yes you are. For $15 I’d give the guy a $50 and tell him to keep the change because I am a good white person. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/13 "2013-05-28T20:09:47Z")
White guy: I’d give him a $20. I usually tip 4-5 bucks, but during hurricane Sandy, when I realized there wasn’t much to eat in the house, I tipped like Diamond Jim to the pizza guy. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/14 "2013-05-28T20:16:36Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Yes you are. For $15 I’d give the guy a $50 and tell him to keep the change because I am a good white person. Only a 233% tip??? What year are you living in? Good white people in 2013 tip by handing out spare debit/credit cards with PINs on sticky notes. Get with the program, Drunky! ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/15 "2013-05-28T20:27:58Z")
Sanford, Florida? :dubious: I’d tip three bucks if I had small bills…probably just “keep the change” if I was paying with a $20. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/16 "2013-05-28T20:32:43Z")
My pizza delivering experiences didn’t show me any rock-solid stereotypes along racial lines, but most definitely along economic lines: Poor people - tip like champs; they are the “$15? Here’s $20, keep the change,” folks. Rich people - tight as vices; they are the, “where’s my change; you get paid hourly, don’t you?” people. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/17 "2013-05-28T20:34:04Z")
More proof that white people suck at math. In another version of the article, the customer supposedly showed (reporters?) a copy of the receipt with 21%. It is my understanding that pizza tipping is not even necessarily percentage based. Just throw a couple of bucks on and increase depending on if more pizzas, drinks, breadsticks, etc. are ordered. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/18 "2013-05-28T20:35:51Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Rich people - tight as vices Don’t forget old people and foreigners. Gotta pry a tip out of those bastards with a crowbar. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/19 "2013-05-28T20:48:55Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Having worked in pizza, I think he just wasn’t tipped. And I’ve heard a lot of racist rants in the pizza business, although never this bad and never this stupid. Same here. I can safely say that I never heard anyone ranting about a black customer who tipped him. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Lurker\_Above](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Lurker\_Above](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Lurker_Above)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571/20 "2013-05-28T20:52:11Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Rich people - tight as vices; they are the, “where’s my change; you get paid hourly, don’t you?” people. You don’t think they got rich by just **giving money away** , do you? 😉 But yeah, in my experience the best tippers are those in/just out of food service. They know what you’re going through. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-butt-calling-racist-is-not-conducive-for-employment/659571.md?page=2)