# Being a moron pays off **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 24, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649 "2018-12-24T21:10:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/1 "2018-12-24T21:10:05Z")
> **[Otto Warmbier: Family of American student held in North Korea awarded $500...](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/12/24/u-s-district-judge-awards-family-otto-warmbier-500-million/2407709002/)** > > The family of Otto Warmbier, the Wyoming, Ohio man who died after being imprisoned, has been awarded $500 million in a lawsuit against the North Korea So this dipshit goes to North Korea and dies, yet his parents get a $500 million judgement against NK. What a waste of time and resources for someone who shouldn’t have been there. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/2 "2018-12-24T21:33:27Z")
“Shouldn’t have been there” does not warrant torture severe enough to cause brain damage and eventually death. Whether or not this kid exercised poor judgement, his family has suffered a real loss at the hands of a brutal dictatorship. Have a heart, dude. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendajo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Arrendajo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrendajo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/3 "2018-12-24T21:37:14Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > [U.S. district judge awards family of Otto Warmbier $500 million](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/12/24/u-s-district-judge-awards-family-otto-warmbier-500-million/2407709002/) > > So this dipshit goes to North Korea and dies, yet his parents get a $500 million judgement against NK. What a waste of time and resources for someone who shouldn’t have been there. Merry Christmas, dude. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/4 "2018-12-24T21:46:57Z")
It’s a nice judgment but how are they going to get the money? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/5 "2018-12-24T21:51:14Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > It’s a nice judgment but how are they going to get the money? Kim has the check ready. They just have to swing by and pick it up. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/6 "2018-12-24T21:55:00Z")
Maybe Kim will send extra for the wall. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/7 "2018-12-24T22:05:46Z")
It’s never paid off for me. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/8 "2018-12-24T22:22:01Z")
I can’t imagine in what sense this constitutes “paying off.” What the fuck? The kid was still slowly tortured to death and his family have to live with that. Not to mention the likelihood of getting that judgment paid. Would the OP like to take this deal for himself or a member of his own family? ---
**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/9 "2018-12-24T22:49:20Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I can’t imagine in what sense this constitutes “paying off.” What the fuck? The kid was still slowly tortured to death and his family have to live with that. Not to mention the likelihood of getting that judgment paid. Would the OP like to take this deal for himself or a member of his own family? I don’t want the money, but another self entitled ass doesn’t follow the rules and his family hits it big… ---
**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/10 "2018-12-24T22:50:26Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > “Shouldn’t have been there” does not warrant torture severe enough to cause brain damage and eventually death. > Whether or not this kid exercised poor judgement, his family has suffered a real loss at the hands of a brutal dictatorship. Have a heart, dude. I have a heart until people do stupid ass things to them self. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/11 "2018-12-24T22:52:04Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > I don’t want the money, but another self entitled ass doesn’t follow the rules and his family hits it big… Is there any particular reason to accept the NK account of what happened? They aren’t exactly disinterested wittnesses with impeccable reputations. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/12 "2018-12-24T22:57:22Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > I don’t want the money, but another self entitled ass doesn’t follow the rules and his family hits it big… I’m sure this will be the Merriest of Christmases for the family. 👌 ---
**Author:** ![rsat3acr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@rsat3acr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsat3acr)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/13 "2018-12-24T22:58:39Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > “Shouldn’t have been there” does not warrant torture severe enough to cause brain damage and eventually death. > Whether or not this kid exercised poor judgement, his family has suffered a real loss at the hands of a brutal dictatorship. Have a heart, dude. it may not warrant it in our society but it does there whether we like it or not. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/14 "2018-12-24T23:06:49Z")
**Mod Hat On** Not really seeing a request for opinions so I don’t think IMHO is the best forum. Since the OP is essentially ranting about this, I’m moving it to the Pit. If the OP would like to frame this as a debate (GD) or a less angry OP (MPSIMS), feel free to start a new thread. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/15 "2018-12-24T23:15:22Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > I don’t want the money, but another self entitled ass doesn’t follow the rules and his family hits it big… “self entitled”? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/16 "2018-12-24T23:29:47Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > “self entitled”? :dubious: He thought he can do whatever he wanted against the rules in place. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/17 "2018-12-24T23:48:13Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > He thought he can do whatever he wanted against the rules in place. Would you support gang rape as punishment for lesbianism in certain parts of Africa? Also there is speculation warmbier was framed so he could be used as a bargaining chip by North Korea. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/18 "2018-12-24T23:53:03Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > I don’t want the money, but another self entitled ass doesn’t follow the rules and his family hits it big… And do all those North Koreans in gulags deserve what they’re getting for “not following the rules”? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/19 "2018-12-25T00:07:39Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > He thought he can do whatever he wanted against the rules in place. What exactly is your problem here? The money awarded would be North Korea’s money, not yours. The money would go to his surviving family, not himself. And, most importantly, this has nothing at all to do with you. So exactly what is your problem here? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/20 "2018-12-25T00:16:32Z")
I’ll think this is fair when I see a 500 million judgement against a state prison system for a kid who goes into jail, gets beaten up badly, and dies. We had a case here where a guy murdered his cell-mate so that he could commit suicide without intervention. Didn’t even make the papers. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649.md?page=2)