# Being a moron pays off

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 24, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649 "2018-12-24T21:10:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/21 "2018-12-25T00:18:16Z")

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Reminds of the judge who awarded America $7 billion in reparations to be paid by Islamic terrorists as compensation for 9/11. He might as well have made it Graham’s Number.

> **[9/11 Federal Court Awards $7 billion in final judgment | Winder and Counsel,...](http://www.winderfirm.com/library/9-11-lawsuit-federal-court-awards-7-billion-in-final-judgment.html)**
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> A federal judge in Manhattan has entered a Final Judgment in Havlish, et al. v. bin Laden, et al., awarding more than $7 billion in damages to forty-seven 9/11 victims and their families.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/22 "2018-12-25T00:22:07Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> He thought he can do whatever he wanted against the rules in place.

And the moot punishment for this trespass is months and months of agonizing torture and death?

When is the last time you violated a minor rule or committed a minor misdemeanor? Would you accept agony, torture, and death as your just desserts? Would you cheer if your own young relative suffered such consequences in a parallel situation?

This judgment is not a reward for the crime committed by the kid. It’s a penalty in the government of North Korea for the crime it committed against him and his family for what it did to him. Why is there no mention of that in your rant?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/23 "2018-12-25T00:24:25Z")

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Really, I think this thread is a perfect example of the sickness of the “conservative” mind. It’s disgusting.

(“Conservative” in quotation marks because I mean it in a personal/cultural/societal sense. Not in a political sense.)

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/24 "2018-12-25T00:27:32Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> And the moot punishment for this trespass is months and months of agonizing torture and death?
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> When is the last time you violated a minor rule or committed a minor misdemeanor? Would you accept agony, torture, and death as your just desserts? Would you cheer if your own young relative suffered such consequences in a parallel situation?
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> This judgment is not a reward for the crime committed by the kid. It’s a penalty in the government of North Korea for the crime it committed against him and his family for what it did to him. Why is there no mention of that in your rant?

The kid would not be dead if he didn’t go there.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/25 "2018-12-25T00:28:48Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Really, I think this thread is a perfect example of the sickness of the “conservative” mind. It’s disgusting.
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> (“Conservative” in quotation marks because I mean it in a personal/cultural/societal sense. Not in a political sense.)

There is not a sickness in having people accept personal responsibility for their actions.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/26 "2018-12-25T00:31:39Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> The kid would not be dead if he didn’t go there.

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> There is not a sickness in having people accept personal responsibility for their actions.

Do the people living in North Korea imprisoned in gulags deserve it?

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/27 "2018-12-25T00:35:26Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Do the people living in North Korea imprisoned in gulags deserve it?

Thank you for repeating your question. I don’t know about the crimes against the state committed by those people.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/28 "2018-12-25T00:37:55Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Thank you for repeating your question. I don’t know about the crimes against the state committed by those people.

What makes you think they committed a crime against the state? Or do you think not worshiping an egotistical, power-mad asshole should be a crime?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/29 "2018-12-25T00:38:08Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> The kid would not be dead if he didn’t go there.

> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> There is not a sickness in having people accept personal responsibility for their actions.

I don’t believe you honestly believe anything you’re saying in this thread. You’re either a poseur, a liar, or a hypocrite.

And if I’m wrong about that and you are being honest, then you’re a sick fuck who ought not to be allowed to make decisions that affect other people.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/30 "2018-12-25T00:40:02Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I don’t believe you honestly believe anything you’re saying in this thread. You’re either a poseur, a liar, or a hypocrite.
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> And if I’m wrong about that and you are being honest, then you’re a sick fuck who ought not to be allowed to make decisions that affect other people.

Thank you for your opinion.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/31 "2018-12-25T00:46:45Z")

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Have a merry fucking Christmas. I’m sure you’ll spend the whole time tearing your hair out that another family is celebrating their good fortune in winning a judgment against a brutal government for such a cheap price.

Will you be looking around your house at your loved ones and wishing that one of them could be tortured to death in exchange for a big cash reward?

Please let us know how you rank the people in your life as the best tokens for such an exchange.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/32 "2018-12-25T00:46:49Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Thank you for repeating your question. I don’t know about the crimes against the state committed by those people.

What a complete and total non-answer. Go sit on a cactus.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/33 "2018-12-25T00:54:26Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Have a merry fucking Christmas. I’m sure you’ll spend the whole time tearing your hair out that another family is celebrating their good fortune in winning a judgment against a brutal government for such a cheap price.
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> Will you be looking around your house at your loved ones and wishing that one of them could be tortured to death in exchange for a big cash reward?
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> Please let us know how you rank the people in your life as the best tokens for such an exchange.

Again a fucktard who is probably related to you violates laws and does. It is his own fault for dying, not the NK. I wish you were in my family so I could rank you number 1.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/34 "2018-12-25T00:57:07Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Again a fucktard who is probably related to you violates laws and does. It is his own fault for dying, not the NK.

Is it Tamir Rice’s fault that the cops shot him for playing with a toy gun?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/35 "2018-12-25T00:57:57Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Again a fucktard who is probably related to you violates laws and does. It is his own fault for dying, not the NK. I wish you were in my family so I could rank you number 1.

Cite from a source other than the NK that he actually did something that deserves death? Or did anything at all?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/36 "2018-12-25T01:21:51Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> I don’t want the money, but another self entitled ass doesn’t follow the rules and his family hits it big…

The only ass, self-entitled or otherwise, is you. Why do you believe the North Korean government on, well, anything? The North Korean’s version of Warmbier’s alleged activities has been examined, dissected, and ridiculed soundly often. Only a complete ass–for example, you–would accept that version.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/37 "2018-12-25T01:36:18Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> He thought he can do whatever he wanted against the rules in place.

And what exactly did he do that was “against the rules”, dumbass? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/38 "2018-12-25T01:44:30Z")

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Who feels the need, on Christmas Eve no less, to even bring this up in this way?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/39 "2018-12-25T01:48:16Z")

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A troll does.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/40 "2018-12-25T01:55:44Z")

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The penalty for doing something stupid is not painful death.

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