# Being a moron pays off

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 24, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649 "2018-12-24T21:10:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/41 "2018-12-25T02:01:04Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> “Shouldn’t have been there” does not warrant torture severe enough to cause brain damage and eventually death.

> [@Acsenray](#):
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> The kid was still slowly tortured to death and his family have to live with that.

This doesn’t exonerate North Korea (whatever happened was on their watch), but no evidence of physical torture was found by the medical experts who examined him.

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**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/42 "2018-12-25T02:09:50Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> The penalty for doing something stupid is not painful death.

“Set fire to your hair  
Poke a stick at a Grizzly bear  
Eat medicine that’s out of date  
Use your private parts for piranha bait…”

I agree we should try to reduce the number of incidences, though.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/43 "2018-12-25T02:11:45Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> A troll does.

I’m not a troll you fucking cocksucker.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/44 "2018-12-25T02:14:32Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> The penalty for doing something stupid is not painful death.

Something stupid is stealing a pack of gum or cheating on a test. Willfully going to a country you shouldnt and not following the rules is criminal. There was no reason for him to go there.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/45 "2018-12-25T02:15:04Z")

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I don’t even know why the guy went over there. But I do remember seeing his parents on TV. I felt sorrow for them. What ever my kids do, stupid, wrong headed or ignorant, I still love them and wouldn’t want them to die. And that was a horrific way to die. They’ll never get the money, but still.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/46 "2018-12-25T02:19:20Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> I’m not a troll you fucking cocksucker.

Then why do you keep ignoring the argument that we don’t know anything about what actually happened? He could have been a dumb shit who did something really preposterous. He could have been a totally innocent pawn. The world is full of stupid people about whom there is no ambiguity. Why so much rage at this case, when there is?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/47 "2018-12-25T02:19:28Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> I’m not a troll you fucking cocksucker.

[Ahem.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfBin_pSaGQ)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/48 "2018-12-25T02:21:44Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Something stupid is stealing a pack of gum or cheating on a test. Willfully going to a country you shouldnt and not following the rules is criminal. There was no reason for him to go there.

Again, tell us what rule he didn’t follow.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/49 "2018-12-25T02:22:34Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [Ahem.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfBin_pSaGQ)

Fuck you too, ass pirate.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/50 "2018-12-25T02:24:45Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I don’t even know why the guy went over there. But I do remember seeing his parents on TV. I felt sorrow for them. What ever my kids do, stupid, wrong headed or ignorant, I still love them and wouldn’t want them to die. And that was a horrific way to die. They’ll never get the money, but still.

He died deliberately doing something stupid and dangerous. This is natural selection at it’s best. The additional waste ti the American taxpayers for a suit against NK further demonstrates the extent of this self entitled family. Fuck all of them.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/51 "2018-12-25T02:26:51Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Again, tell us what rule he didn’t follow.

Do you think he followed all rules and was a complete boy scout?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/52 "2018-12-25T02:28:53Z")

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A lot of taxpayer money is wasted. Particularly with what’s happening now with the government shutdown. I think the miniscule amount it took to try this case is not worth crying over. There are bigger fish to fry. IMO.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/53 "2018-12-25T02:29:07Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Do you think he followed all rules and was a complete boy scout?

North Korea’s rules are bullshit and whether he broke them or not is irrelevant to the fact that he was tortured and murdered by a criminal regime.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/54 "2018-12-25T02:31:17Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> He died deliberately doing something stupid and dangerous. This is natural selection at it’s best. The additional waste ti the American taxpayers for a suit against NK further demonstrates the extent of this self entitled family. Fuck all of them.

You really buy NK’s story about what happened? That strikes me as extremely odd. And pitworthy.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/55 "2018-12-25T02:37:38Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> You really buy NK’s story about what happened? That strikes me as extremely odd. And pitworthy.

He’s a sTrumpet. He’ll believe _anything._

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/56 "2018-12-25T03:06:43Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Fuck you too, ass pirate.

Juvenile response, that. And quite homophobic.

> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> He died deliberately doing something stupid and dangerous. This is natural selection at it’s best. The additional waste ti the American taxpayers for a suit against NK further demonstrates the extent of this self entitled family. Fuck all of them.

How was it known to be “stupid and dangerous” at the time Warmbier went to North Korea on a sanctioned tour (the only kind of tours there are, after all)? What exactly did he do that has you all up in conniptions? And once again, why do you believe the North Korean’s version of events? And what’s your beef about taxpayers? The Warmbier family filed the suit against North Korea’s government.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/57 "2018-12-25T03:41:03Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Again a fucktard who is probably related to you violates laws and does. It is his own fault for dying, not the NK. I wish you were in my family so I could rank you number 1.

So you’ve never made a mistake in your life, I guess?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/58 "2018-12-25T03:44:09Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> So you’ve never made a mistake in your life, I guess?

Not one he’d admit to.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/59 "2018-12-25T03:52:31Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Do you think he followed all rules and was a complete boy scout?

So basically, you don’t know, you’e only speculating. Fabulous.

Go fuck yourself with a yule log.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/60 "2018-12-25T03:55:47Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> So basically, you don’t know, you’e only speculating. Fabulous.
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> Go fuck yourself with a yule log.

And you dont either. Hope Santa shoves coal up your ass until a diamond comes out of your mouth.

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