# Being a moron pays off

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 24, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649 "2018-12-24T21:10:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/61 "2018-12-25T03:57:17Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> A lot of taxpayer money is wasted. Particularly with what’s happening now with the government shutdown. I think the miniscule amount it took to try this case is not worth crying over. There are bigger fish to fry. IMO.

Part of the problem that everyone will excuse this $100,000 and that $100,000. It all adds up.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/62 "2018-12-25T03:58:50Z")

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[quote=“Monty, post:56, topic:826649”]

Juvenile response, that. And quite homophobic.

I have had responses to md that are juvenile. It is the pit. Fuck off bitch.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/63 "2018-12-25T04:01:46Z")

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The biggest problem we have, and there are a few, is that idiot in the Whitehouse who spent way more money going to see his good friend Kim that that trial would begin to cost. You need to realize your fighting the wrong battle. Do you want to die on this slippery slope? Maybe you should rethink your position.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/64 "2018-12-25T04:19:28Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> The biggest problem we have, and there are a few, is that idiot in the Whitehouse who spent way more money going to see his good friend Kim that that trial would begin to cost. You need to realize your fighting the wrong battle. Do you want to die on this slippery slope? Maybe you should rethink your position.

What battle should I fight?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/65 "2018-12-25T04:41:53Z")

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I can’t tell you what to fight for. Maybe go serve dinner at a homeless shelter tomarrow instead of dwelling on something you can’t change.  
Anybody with half a heart feels sorry for that family. I didn’t agree with Bush sending troops to Iraq but I did grieve for the troops we lost. And thier families. The world is a dangerous place. Even schools are deadly.  
This is Christmas, you know, good tidings and all.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/66 "2018-12-25T04:59:12Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> What battle should I fight?

The Battle of Stopping Yourself From Posting Stupid Shit?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/67 "2018-12-25T05:14:27Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> I’m not a troll…

[citation needed]

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/68 "2018-12-25T05:27:25Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> [citation needed]

“UCBearcats is not a troll” - Mama Andros

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/69 "2018-12-25T05:37:23Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Do you think he followed all rules and was a complete boy scout?

No one knows. Really. Its unknowable. It’s fucking NK. He could have done something entirely innocent ans through malice or incompetence in the part of some bureaucrat, been improperly arrested, starting a chain of face saving frame up jobs and bungled cover ups. That’s incredibly possible. Why on earth do you trust the NK account?

I don’t believe he didn’t do anything stupid. I recognize it as unknowable. How can you be so SURE?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/70 "2018-12-25T07:04:40Z")

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Ah, now I understand what’s happening here. The OP is simply upset that being a moron actually does not garner one five hundred million dollars and he’s going to have to find another way to pay his debts. He’s bashing the Warmbier family because of his own projection.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/71 "2018-12-25T07:14:07Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> [citation needed]

[Here you go.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20394593&postcount=64)

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/72 "2018-12-25T07:26:50Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Ah, now I understand what’s happening here. The OP is simply upset that being a moron actually does not garner one five hundred million dollars and he’s going to have to find another way to pay his debts. He’s bashing the Warmbier family because of his own projection.

I think he’s mad that his own stupid kids haven’t gotten themselves tortured into a vegetative state, so he’s missing out on that sweet, sweet North Korean money payout. Dumb kids.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/73 "2018-12-25T07:35:42Z")

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Let’s see… I remember Bryan Stow. His “crime” was rooting for the Giants in LA territory. He was “sentenced” to a beating that left him disfigured and suffered permanent brain damage. He’s an EMT with a wife and kids.

As far as everything some dumbass Cincinnati college fan wrote, I’m SURE he’d agree that Bryan Stow deserved the beating leaving him disfigured and brain damaged. Hey, he went to the wrong territory, right? And acted incorrectly, by wearing Giants fan gear.

But wait, Cincinnati, you’ll probably cite the $18 million Bryan Stow was going to receive, but won’t. Some of that comes from his two convicted attackers. They can’t pay, so no $4 million from them. After all is said and done, he and family get $5.6 million, and his healthcare for life (plus lawyers) will cost over $30 million.

Differences- Bryan is alive (sort of) and his attackers were caught. Warmbler’s attackers were not caught and he’s dead.

Similarities - NO TAXPAYERS are paying any of this money. And both families are absolutely emotionally destroyed.

So perhaps you going to a Xavier Musketeers game wearing Bearkitties fan gear and acting inappropriately (say, giving the finger) get beaten to death or disfigured and brain damaged would serve you right. We could all say fuck this moron. And fuck his money-grabbing family. They should just go back to work and accept how stupid their sibling was. Shit, he should’ve known better. Am I right, guys?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/74 "2018-12-25T09:53:51Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> I don’t want the money, but another self entitled ass doesn’t follow the rules and his family hits it big…

So… it’s more that being a _relative_ of a moron pays off, right?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/75 "2018-12-25T09:57:11Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Thank you for repeating your question. I don’t know about the crimes against the state committed by those people.

Quite a few of them committed no crime at all, they were merely related to someone who did. Commit a political crime in North Korea not only you but your parents, siblings, cousins, and children down to the next 2-3 generations are imprisoned - mean your unborn grandchildren will live their entire lives as prisoners and die in the gulag for a crime you, not they committed.

Now what is your answer?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/76 "2018-12-25T10:31:45Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> … another self entitled ass …

Looked in a mirror lately?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/77 "2018-12-25T12:46:40Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> [U.S. district judge awards family of Otto Warmbier $500 million](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/12/24/u-s-district-judge-awards-family-otto-warmbier-500-million/2407709002/)
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> So this dipshit goes to North Korea and dies, yet his parents get a $500 million judgement against NK. What a waste of time and resources for someone who shouldn’t have been there.

What information do you have that wasn’t provided by the government of North Korea?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/78 "2018-12-25T12:50:44Z")

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From the OP’s cite:

> [@](#):
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> In February 2016 in Pyongyang, North Korea, Otto read from a prepared statement before state media, declaring he committed the “severe crime” of stealing a propaganda poster from a hotel.  
> Court documents outline the many “untruths” in Otto’s confession. Experts testified that the confession was “coerced” and “completely manipulated.” Otto also spoke with “unnatural” language that sounded as if he had “been forced to memorize” the words, court documents said.  
> Phrases like “crime task” and “quietest boots for sneaking” were cited for being North Korean phrases.  
> During the confession, Otto begged for mercy but was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/79 "2018-12-25T13:01:11Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> So you’ve never made a mistake in your life, I guess?

Nothing close to the one his parents made.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-moron-pays-off/826649/80 "2018-12-25T13:26:59Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> I’m not a troll you fucking cocksucker.

A category that includes some of my favorite people. Remember, an oral compulsion can be a very endearing characteristic.

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