# Being a particularly trashy Doctor Who question, of especial interest to straight women and gay men **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 21, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927 "2013-02-21T00:38:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Rala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@Rala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rala)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/21 "2013-02-21T06:28:57Z")
For me the question comes down to Eleven/Smith or Jack/Barrowman. If we were talking about the characters, I’d go with Captain Jack (the Doctor probably wouldn’t want to, considering how he reacted when Amy hit on him). Since it’s the actors, I picked Matt Smith (John Barrowman definitely wouldn’t want to, since I’m a chick). I’m possibly overthinking this, but at least it works as a tiebreaker! ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/22 "2013-02-21T10:10:32Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I’m really quite surprised that it’s such a Cap’n. Jack landslide and that there’s so far no love for Matt Smith. Cap’n Jack is _hot_. Tennant is OK except he’s too thin for my tastes, I’d be afraid of either snapping him like a twig or injuring myself on a protruding bone. Matt Smith is young enough to be offspring of myself, and that adds a squick factor I’m not sure I could overcome. Jail bait, in other words. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/23 "2013-02-21T13:23:31Z")
You don’t go back NEAR far enough. For me it will always be the Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart, from the third and fourth Doctors. _Just once I’d like to meet an alien menace that wasn’t immune to bullets!_ ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/24 "2013-02-21T14:15:00Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I’m thinking Rory. It was the Roman thing. [QUOTE=Roderick Femme] I would go for Rory because he’s the only one who seems like a real person; his character is very lovable and loyal, and he really is quite a dish in his own way. [/QUOTE] My choice as well. He’s just a total doll. John Barrowman and his partner (who’s also very hot) were at DragonCon (the sci-fi convention in Atlanta this year), and he actually turns me _off_ in person. He’s certainly hot, and he couldn’t be friendlier with his fans and it’s clear he loves being worshipped (who woudln’t?), but there’s something very very fake about him. OTOH, his biceps aren’t among the fake things; boy is crazy toned. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/25 "2013-02-21T14:23:49Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > For me it will always be the Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart, from the third and fourth Doctors. Meaning no disrespect to the character or the actor, as somebody who hasn’t seen any of the pre-Eccleston episodes, his death, mentioned in _The Wedding of River Song_, was really confusing. I was assuming that the character had some significance in the plotline since they had recalled many other characters from the preceding season, and I’d just forgotten who it was and I was wondering "is this cat really dead or in a crystalis and about to turn into an alien tiger-mouse, or is it really a murder, or… what exactly is the point of a nurse saying “He died peacefully just now”? Later learned of coursse that it was an homage to the actor who had just died, so a nice gesture from Moffatt or whoever the writer was, but a clumsy one; I’d have just had his picture in a frame at the end. [QUOTE=Baker] Just once I’d like to meet an alien menace that wasn’t immune to bullets! [/QUOTE] River Song seems to have found one or two who fit that description, sweetie.😃 I could almost go straight for her for a moment or two. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/26 "2013-02-21T14:40:15Z")
> [@Rala](#): > > (John Barrowman definitely wouldn’t want to, since I’m a chick). He claims that he’s bi. Whether that’s true or not _shrug_. ---
**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/27 "2013-02-21T16:12:34Z")
Gotta be Doc 9. Love Eccleston anyway and his Doctor is still my favorite. Never found Barrowman or Captain Jack enticing. Neither the actor or the character are my type at all. Docs 10 & 11 are too boyish for my tastes as well. While I have no interest in John Simm’s Master, I loved his character in “The Devil’s Whore” and would gladly have done him. Missing from the list - Derek Jacobi’s Master. I had a thing for Mr. Jacobi for more than two decades and he has aged very well. If he had been included in the poll it would have been a much tougher choice. Off-topic - for anyone else who likes Eccleston and Jacobi, you really ought to see “Revenger’s Tragedy”. In fact, I need to see it again. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/28 "2013-02-21T16:29:53Z")
Captain Jack. I love all of the Captain Jacks (Captain Jack Sparrow, and Captain Jack from Master and Commander). Close second is David Tennant. Eleven isn’t even remotely close. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/29 "2013-02-21T16:37:53Z")
> [@Mrs.Cake](#): > > Missing from the list - Derek Jacobi’s Master. I had a thing for Mr. Jacobi for more than two decades and he has aged very well. If he had been included in the poll it would have been a much tougher choice. I actually find him sexier post-60 than when he was much younger. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/30 "2013-02-21T16:51:21Z")
Barrowman’s as camp as a row of pink tents. Gay since aged 9: [BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | Why is John Barrowman gay?](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7523567.stm) ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/31 "2013-02-21T17:00:12Z")
I would have gone with Jack as he is characterized on Doctor Who. In Torchwood he couldn’t have turned me any further off. So, Tennant. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/32 "2013-02-21T17:12:45Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > Barrowman’s as camp as a row of pink tents. > > Gay since aged 9: [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7523567.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7523567.stm) I haven’t been able to take him seriously at anything since I saw a video of him singing _I, Don Quixote_ from ‘Man of La Mancha’. It rivals John Davidson singing _Cats in the Cradle_ for the “cheesiest non-tongue-in-cheek lounge version of a song I’ve ever seen by a very successful entertainer”. This is whatever is two cities down from Branson theater worthy. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/JGcoRdko6zs/hqdefault.jpg "John Barrowman, Glasgow, Man of La Mancha (I, Don Quixote)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGcoRdko6zs) ---
**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/33 "2013-02-21T17:13:18Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > He claims that he’s bi. Whether that’s true or not _shrug_. He’s “gold-star gay” (never had PIV with a girl) but claims that he did a _lot_ of fooling around with a girlfriend back in HS, and he’s been known to make out with chicks… _sigh_ But yeah. If I could be the filling in a Jack - and - Nine sammich, I would not object in the least. Jack/Nine/Rose is basically my OT3, in any combination. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/34 "2013-02-21T18:01:40Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > Oh, the fourth Doctor, Tom Baker, no question. He was my invisible lover for _years._ > > Of course, I’d like him to be in his prime. He’s 79 years old now. Also, I’d like him to be reasonably sober at the time, so he doesn’t throw up on me during it. There’s a few stories out there about him and the bottle. > > But the man was fantastic in my dream world. I’ve moved on, but wow…drroooool… Huh, so I didn’t post this, judging by the username… Anyway, since we’d be play-acting and all (actors doing their best in-character acting since Doctors - not to mention The Master - are dangerous to be around), I’ll have to give Captain Jack a pass since Barrowman’s almost definitely more fond of men, and angle for Doctor #9. #10 isn’t bad, and going back a ways (time travel time!), Sergeant Benton was easy on the eyes. ---
**Author:** ![happytrees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eb9ed0/32.png) [@happytrees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happytrees)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/35 "2013-02-21T18:31:10Z")
I voted ‘Other’ for McGann’s Eight and Anthony Ainley’s master. ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/36 "2013-02-21T18:34:09Z")
I didn’t vote in the poll because I’m a hetero male and have no interest in … you know. But I logged in to say that Captain Jack is one beautiful human being. I wouldn’t want to do him, but I could gaze at him like a work of art. (At least as of 5 years ago. I assume he’s still perfect, but I don’t watch _Torchwood_.) ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/37 "2013-02-21T18:37:36Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I’m really quite surprised that it’s such a Cap’n. Jack landslide and that there’s so far no love for Matt Smith. I knew I’d be in the minority, but I’m also surprised at just how far in the minority I am! Anyway, for me it’s Matt Smith/Eleventh Doctor all the way. He’s a bit gangly and dorky, but that’s what I like. What a cutie pie! Captain Jack and David Tennant are pretty cute too, in their own ways, but nothing even close to what I think when I look at Matt. I love that shy, reluctant thing too. “Let me convince you, _Doctor_” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/38 "2013-02-21T18:44:21Z")
Oh, and as far as ones that aren’t on the list, my number one is James Corden’s guest role. Mmmm…James Corden… ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/39 "2013-02-21T19:03:36Z")
Tennant. Hell, I even _had_ that particular kind of dream one night. ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927/40 "2013-02-21T21:36:31Z")
David Tennant remains the only celebrity I’ve ever had a romantic dream about, so I’ll have to go with the tenth Doctor. However, Rory is a very, very close second; if you asked my conscious brain, I might even go with him. But dreams don’t lie. I did have the hugest crush on John Simm after “Life on Mars”, but that doesn’t really translate to the Master. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/being-a-particularly-trashy-doctor-who-question-of-especial-interest-to-straight-women-and-gay-men/650927.md?page=3)