Believing in Santa. Believing in God/Satan.

Hey, the atheists only think I’m delusional. You have me possessed by the “evil one”(echo, echo). Bummer. Putting aside the actual visit I had from G-d, which I do agree makes me seem delusional, let’s just go with the day to day stuff. Have you ever felt G-d’s presence? If so, was there any doubt it was G-d? If you haven’t felt his presence, then why not? I have complete faith in G-d that he would not allow one of those nasty evil one’s to give me hell.:wink: His presence is filled with love and in turn makes me filled with gratitude. No huge specific message there. He didn’t tell me you were full of **** or anything. Just feeling the magnitude of his love gives me assurance that he’s not going to let any of us come to harm.

I don’t believe G-d has contradicted anything in his word. Man has though. The WORD really was love. It wasn’t literally “I’m Jesus, accept me or be damned!!” You do realize that G-d is a jealous G-d. You’re only supposed to worship Him?

About the OP.
The difference between santa and jesus is no adults believe in santa.

The word really was love.
isn’t that from John 1:1?
In the beginning was the word and the word was the Lord.
Yes?
Jesus IS the WORD.
So…the bible points one to Jesus.
Yes?

Tell me vanilla, if you were me, would you believe G-d or lynn. Just because I think lynn is wrong, doesn’t mean I’m passing any kind of judgment on what kind of person she is. I think praying for people is good, but I think a living witness of a loving G-d is better. But hey, she’s praying for me. I can use a little help on that problem I have with my sense of humor and being irreverent.
:wink: The hippie on a stick still makes me giggle. I know, it was bad. Bad DtC, bad!!!:smiley:

cannot answer that.
I am not you.
(thank God! KIDDING!)

Maybe she prays and ALSO has a good wtiness by her life.
Eh?

Jesus lived the WORD. The WORD was from G-d. It was love.

lynn, Could you expain how Jesus is G-d?

Yes.

John1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.

John 1:10
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

As to Santa, you’re right vanilla. Yet the parents keep teaching the child something they know to be a falsehood.

The above post is in response to vanilla, not IlWN.

iwln seems to be saying that Jesus is also Love.
True, He loved us enough to forgive our sins.

Maybe. Eh? Too many people going to hell on her watch. G-d’s will?:eek:

From what the NT says of Jesus’ teachings, they were all filled with love, acceptance, compassion, forgiveness. Regardless of his rumored relationship to G-d, his message was good.

rumor?
“I and the Father are one”.
-Jesus.

Some rumor.

If you mean can I explain how it works so that you’ll have complete understanding of of it, no I don’t think so because even the Bible calls it a mystery:

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

The Bible says there’s one God, yet it also says that Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit is God. So we believe in a trinity, one God in three Persons.

Acts 5:1-11
1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

This shows that lying to the Holy Spirit is the same as lying to God.

The first chapter of John clearly shows Jesus’ deity. Also, what can say it more clear than Colossians 2:9 - For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Refer to verse 8 if you question whether that’s talking about Christ.

There’s also 1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (Jesus, refer again to John 1:1), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

And I also see a picture of the trinity here:

Genesis 1:26a
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness,…etc.

Compare with first chapter of John where it says "he was in the world and the world was made by him and the world knew him not. Who was in the world? Jesus.

I’ve heard people say that if Jesus was God then was He talking to Himself when He prayed to the Father? As I said before, I can’t explain it all, I can only point to the scriptures that show Jesus was God in the flesh. Only a totally perfect, sinless Person could die for our sins and the only sinless Being in the universe is God.

This may help you with the Trinity:

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/t03.html

I’ll leave you with Hebrews 1:8 in which God says to the Son:
But unto the Son he saith, THY THRONE, O GOD, IS FOR EVER AND EVER: A SCEPTRE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE SCEPTRE OF THEY KINGDOM.

Remember, it’s a mystery. I can’t explain it all. But the Bible says that the fulness of the Godhead dwelt in Jesus and that’s good enough for me.

We’re all one in the spirit of G-d’s love. I don’t think he meant it literally.

Here’s another one:

http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/trinity.shtml

I wish you could edit posts on this board!

Point taken.
One in purpose.

lynn.
Its generally realized that we should post our sig (if its a link) once in a page of a thread.
You don’t have to do it each time.
:slight_smile:
(check mine out!)

Hmm, interesting sig. I had no idea we should’nt post our sig line in every post. Sometimes I forget, anyway. Thanks for telling me but I may forget.

I have heard all this. Just checking to see if anyone heard it different. Thought not. It’s a mystery is just like saying, “I know this doesn’t make a damn bit of sense, but it’s all we have, so deal with it.” I can go with “one in purpose”, but that includes many of us, not just Jesus.

So who’s getting drunk tonight? No? Kidding! Sort of. They didn’t say anything bad about Long Island Ice Teas in the Bible, did they?:smiley:

Whats in a long island iced tea?
I don’t get drunk anymore (I was paid to do so when I was working)
I like one drink (never beer) once in a while.
Something like schnapps or the drink called blow job (no offense lynn)
And the bible says anything you want to eat or drink is okay. Its what comes out of the heart thats a sin, not what you put in.

Me,I’m having sparkling white grape juice.