# Bellweather Wisconsin Supreme Court election on Tuesday **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 3, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997 "2011-04-03T01:38:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/21 "2011-04-06T03:34:12Z")
so? what happened, Wisconinites? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/22 "2011-04-06T03:38:46Z")
Not a Cheese-head, but according to Dave Weigel: Now 69% in, Kloppenburg up by 550 of 1.06 million votes ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/23 "2011-04-06T04:09:36Z")
Talking Points Memo currently has it at 84% of precincts reporting, with Kloppenberg up by about 35,000. It’s still 51%–49% overall. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/24 "2011-04-06T04:36:40Z")
And now we’re at 92% of precincts reporting and Prosser’s up by 600-something votes. Out of 1.35 or so million. So it’s pretty close, certainly. I don’t know what precincts are still outstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Orr\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ee59a6/32.png) [@Orr\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orr_G)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/25 "2011-04-06T04:40:55Z")
I’ve been following at [http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/](http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/) It’s been 51-49, then 49-51, and now it’s at 50-50 with Kloppenburg up by a little over 1,500 with 3,334 of 3,630 precincts in. I’m looking forward to seeing how this finally plays out. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/26 "2011-04-06T04:42:21Z")
It’s been sooo close all night. I don’t think the spread’s been larger than about 3% at any point since polls closed. This is automatic recount territory, unless Prosser has an awful lot of votes in his pocket that he’s not showing yet. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/27 "2011-04-06T04:42:57Z")
If Prosser wins, the right wins. If Prosser loses, they will demand a recount (legit) and send in a battalion of lawyers to ensure that it takes as long as humanly possible, because every minute it ain’t decided, he’s still the incumbent. ---
**Author:** ![Orr\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ee59a6/32.png) [@Orr\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orr_G)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/28 "2011-04-06T04:43:51Z")
Weird. That site just now reverted back to their 11:00 report (Kloppenburg up by about 8k with 2,957 precincts reporting). Dunno what that’s about. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/29 "2011-04-06T04:46:22Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If Prosser wins, the right wins. If Prosser loses, they will demand a recount (legit) and send in a battalion of lawyers to ensure that it takes as long as humanly possible, because every minute it ain’t decided, he’s still the incumbent. Wisconsin’s auto recount triggers at 0.5%, and we’re well within that margin right now, with precious few precincts still out. It’s going to auto recount. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/30 "2011-04-06T04:49:45Z")
And these results don’t include the absentee ballots, I believe. So, I really don’t think we’re going to know this for a while ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/31 "2011-04-06T05:05:07Z")
Let’s cheer for one thing: turnout is huge. People are voting. For the progressive agenda, the number one enemy isn’t the Republican Party, its the Apathy Party. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/32 "2011-04-06T05:12:21Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > For the progressive agenda, the number one enemy isn’t the Republican Party, its the Apathy Party. I don’t agree. I think the true enemy of the progressives are free citizens that think for themselves and realize the insanity of your agenda. And I believe progressives are actually aware of this truth. ---
**Author:** ![John\_D\_Adamo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@John\_D\_Adamo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_D_Adamo)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/33 "2011-04-06T05:41:21Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > I don’t agree. I think the true enemy of the progressives are free citizens that think for themselves and realize the\*\* insanity\*\* of your agenda. And I believe progressives are actually aware of this truth. What exactly, **pkbites** , do you consider insane about allowing workers the right to ask for a fair wage and safe living conditions? Or the right of women to have health resources available to them? Progressives are merely asking for the preservation of what men and women have fought and died for for decades. I don’t exactly see what is so insane about that. I think it’s more insane that across the country, Republican governors and legislatures are using the power of the government to further the agenda of social conservatism, rather than employing the hands off government they were elected on. Hence the closeness of the Supreme Court election tonight- people have seen the Republicans unmasked now, and are mad as hell about it. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/34 "2011-04-06T12:05:50Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > I don’t agree. I think the true enemy of the progressives are free citizens that think for themselves and realize the insanity of your agenda. And I believe progressives are actually aware of this truth. :rolleyes: Yes, because believing that people are more important then property and wealth is so insane. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/35 "2011-04-06T16:50:13Z")
I’ve been following this pretty closely (being a Minnesotan I’ve always felt a kinship to you cheeseheads), and it looks like at the moment Kloppenburg is currently slightly [winning](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_Supreme_Court_0405.html), with only two [counties](http://media.jsonline.com/images/SUPREME06G2.jpg)left? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/36 "2011-04-06T16:57:17Z")
> [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](#): > > I’ve been following this pretty closely (being a Minnesotan I’ve always felt a kinship to you cheeseheads), and it looks like at the moment Kloppenburg is currently slightly [winning](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_Supreme_Court_0405.html), with only two [counties](http://media.jsonline.com/images/SUPREME06G2.jpg)left? That would be two precincts left. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/37 "2011-04-06T19:15:08Z")
With all precincts reporting (3630/3630), the AP is showing a 204 vote win for Koppenburg. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/38 "2011-04-06T20:21:41Z")
I assume that very small difference will trigger an automatic recount. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/39 "2011-04-06T20:25:59Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > I assume that very small difference will trigger an automatic recount. I thought it would, too, but it’s been pointed out on Daily Kos by multiple cheeseheads that Wisconsin doesn’t have an automatic recount law. At this margin, a requested recount will be paid for publicly, though. I certainly expect Prosser to request a recount, and I can’t begrudge him that considering that the difference in votes is in the low triple-digits. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997/40 "2011-04-06T20:27:13Z")
Walker’s claiming this vote shouldn’t be seen as a referendum on his agenda. In the February primary (there was only one because the race is officially non-partisan) Prosser got more than double the votes Kloppenburg did. If ever there was a referendum without it being an official referendum, this was it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bellweather-wisconsin-supreme-court-election-on-tuesday/576997.md?page=3)