# "Beloved" characters you can't stand **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 19, 2007, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735 "2007-05-19T16:42:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Reloy3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c68b51/32.png) [@Reloy3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reloy3)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/141 "2007-05-22T14:38:10Z")
[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas] When the Muppets were on the first season of Saturday Night Live, the writers hated them so much they use to pay other people to write sketches for them. Except for Michael O’Donoghue who, when told by head honcho Loren Michaels to come up with a Muppet sketch, replied: _I won’t write for felt._ I’ve always loved that line. [/QUOTE] Which is why I would pit Michael O’Donoghue, if he were beloved by anyone but his mom, and the thread rules allowed. I love the Muppets, and dislike writers who are too “important” to deign to write funny and touching stuff for felt because he had to write groundbreaking and socially relevant stuff like Chevy Chase pratfalls and John Belushi in a bee costume. Go Muppets. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/142 "2007-05-22T17:29:45Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] I do. I like him a lot. He’s my 3rd-favourite Discworld character. I don’t get all the love for Perdita/Agnes Nitt, though. Must be a lot of fat Goth chicks out there in fandom. [/QUOTE] :mad: Hey, I resemb… er… Agnes really struck a chord with me because I’ve been where she is (well, not literally standing in front of the Ankh-Morpork Opera House, but you get the idea) and I felt that Pratchett nailed her characterization perfectly. I have to agree that Tiffany’s slightly more interesting, though. ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/143 "2007-05-22T17:34:18Z")
[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas] When the Muppets were on the first season of Saturday Night Live, the writers hated them so much they use to pay other people to write sketches for them. Except for Michael O’Donoghue who, when told by head honcho Loren Michaels to come up with a Muppet sketch, replied: _I won’t write for felt._ I’ve always loved that line. [/QUOTE] Apparently, the cast wasn’t too fond of the Muppets either. I believe it was John Belushi who so wonderfully referred to them as “the mucking Fuppets.” ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/144 "2007-05-22T17:38:30Z")
Squall Leonhart and most of the other Final Fantasy heroes. He’s just the most noxously self-pitying screw-up of the bunch. BTW, I love FF, but its the supporting characters that keep me involved. ---
**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/145 "2007-05-22T18:32:27Z")
Veronica Mars is a manipulative, psychotic criminal who is clearly a complete sociopath. I despise her, and yet I love the show. Go figure. And Scarlett…well, she was all those things, but I still love her. She was the black sheep who survived the war and thrived because she was a black sheep (in fact, Margaret Mitchell even considered the title “Baa Baa Black Sheep” for the book). She is like a phoenix rising from the ashes; it has nothing to do with ethics, and everything to do with survival. That’s why I love the end of the book…she resolves to go on, and there is nothing that can stop her. I admire her strength of character. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/146 "2007-05-22T19:11:06Z")
[QUOTE=KlondikeGeoff] I’ll probably get Pitted for this, but I could not stand the Barney Fife character. I had to deal with too many stupid people to think incompetence was funny. Ah, well… [/QUOTE] No pitting here, it actually came across as mean-spirited to me for Andy to keep Barney around as a deputy, he was really criminally incompetent. Yeah it was supposed to be funny, but I cringed every time Barney screwed up. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/147 "2007-05-22T19:18:42Z")
[QUOTE=Ghanima] Veronica Mars is a manipulative, psychotic criminal who is clearly a complete sociopath. I despise her, and yet I love the show. Go figure. [/QUOTE] Thank you! The few times I’ve actually been in the room when this show was on, I had to wonder if viewers were actually supposed to _like_ this obnoxious, snarky brat. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/148 "2007-05-22T19:38:57Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] But does that count Yoda? -Joe [/QUOTE] Yeah, it does, though I was such a Star Wars geek that I overlooked his Muppetness. I preferred him in the prequels when he was CGI. [QUOTE=Annie-Xmas] When the Muppets were on the first season of Saturday Night Live, the writers hated them so much they use to pay other people to write sketches for them. Except for Michael O’Donoghue who, when told by head honcho Loren Michaels to come up with a Muppet sketch, replied: I won’t write for felt. [/QUOTE] That’s hilarious! I always liked Michael O’Donoghue. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/149 "2007-05-22T20:30:08Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] That’s hilarious! I always liked Michael O’Donoghue. [/QUOTE] My favorite O’Donoghue line was when, after being fired by Dick Ebersole, he posted this note: I am leaving Saturday Night Live because I was fired by Dick Ebersole. If he says it happened any other way he is, to borrow a phrase from Louisa May Alcott, a lying cunt. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/150 "2007-05-23T03:29:04Z")
[QUOTE=pinkfreud] This is a heretical statement on this board, but I think I might have enjoyed **Firefly/Serenity** quite a bit if I hadn’t disliked Mal so much. I’m not certain whether it was the way the character was written, or whether my antipathy is mainly toward Nathan Fillion, but Mal ruined the show for me. [/QUOTE] **HERETIC! THE STREETS WILL FLOW WITH THE BLOOD OF THE NON-BELIEVERS!** Put me down for Lucile Ball…that whiney voice \ ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/151 "2007-05-23T03:32:08Z")
I’m also cheering for Commodore Norrington and if Paris had skewered Romeo (that whiny, immature twit), I’d’ve cheered. ---
**Author:** ![Zambini57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4491bb/32.png) [@Zambini57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zambini57)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/152 "2007-05-23T05:21:22Z")
I’ve paged through the previous posts, and if I’ve missed it I apologize. But, my nominee is Tinker Bell. For all her attempts to endear herself to American audiences through her frolicking at the begining of the “Wondefrul World Of Disney”, she seemed to me to be a vindictive “silly ass.” ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/153 "2007-05-23T06:28:21Z")
Along the lines of Lucy, I could never stand Stan Laurel in his character roles. He was just a whiney , grating tosser who deserved what befell him. ---
**Author:** ![Labelless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f19dbf/32.png) [@Labelless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labelless)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/154 "2007-05-23T06:35:50Z")
Spongebob Squarepants. Loved by mostly children, surely. But I cannot stand this annoying insipid character. And I don’t think we’re really meant to like either Rhett or Scarlett. Both are equally miserable characters, and romantically twisted. A book that was written at the time had all the elements for a nice trashy novel of today’s standards that we wouldn’t give a second glance to if it hadn’t been so long and detailed. I could see a Fabio look alike on the cover of this book. ---
**Author:** ![Intravenus\_De\_Milo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Intravenus\_De\_Milo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intravenus_De_Milo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/155 "2007-05-23T08:08:46Z")
I don’t think I’ve seen this one mentioned yet, but I never could stand Vincent D’Onofrio’s character from Law & Order: CI. A few years ago, both him and the show seemed to be getting heaps of praise (this was before the CSI explosion), but the couple times I watched it, I always thought that character was really creepy and irritating. Sort of like a disturbed, evil-genius guy in a James Bond movie. I also couldn’t stand anyone on Friends, save maybe Phoebe on occasion, if for nothing else because she had the best line ever on that show: someone: "What are you watching?: someone else: “Three’s Company.” Phoebe: “Is that the episode where someone overhears something, and they all get mad at each other, but it was just a misunderstanding? I think I’ve seen than one.” ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/156 "2007-05-23T12:33:16Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Annie-Xmas > When the Muppets were on the first season of Saturday Night Live, the writers hated them so much they use to pay other people to write sketches for them. Except for Michael O’Donoghue who, when told by head honcho Loren Michaels to come up with a Muppet sketch, replied: I won’t write for felt. > > I’ve always loved that line. > > I bet today’s SNL writers (and those for the last 14 years or so) would KILL to “write for felt”. > > -Joe Talk to the Hand. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/157 "2007-05-23T12:42:08Z")
[QUOTE=Intravenus De Milo] I don’t think I’ve seen this one mentioned yet, but I never could stand Vincent D’Onofrio’s character from Law & Order: CI. A few years ago, both him and the show seemed to be getting heaps of praise (this was before the CSI explosion), but the couple times I watched it, I always thought that character was really creepy and irritating. Sort of like a disturbed, evil-genius guy in a James Bond movie. [/QUOTE] Does someone like him? I _hate_ that smug bastard! ---
**Author:** ![zenith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zenith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zenith)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/158 "2007-05-23T12:55:51Z")
[QUOTE=panache45] Why hasn’t anyone mentioned that pustule on the ass of humanity, Mother Theresa? What’s even more disgusting is the rush to canonize her. [/QUOTE] Agreed!! Telling people sorely deprived of nearly every worldly good by rampant overpopulation that the Ultimate Sin was to accept any and all forms of fertility suppression was itself an ultimate sin. It smacked of job protection for Catholic Charities, ie., if the people could eventually reduce their population to the point where they could sustain themselves they eventually wouldn’t need Catholic Charities. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/159 "2007-05-23T19:03:53Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] I’m also cheering for Commodore Norrington and if Paris had skewered Romeo (that whiny, immature twit), I’d’ve cheered. [/QUOTE] Agreed. And that reminds me. Paris. The one from the Iliad. YOU STUPID TWERP. Yeah, yeah, a goddess said you could have her. That’s why Aphrodite won that stupid contest – because you think with your dick. So you grab her and go running off without apparently considering the consequences of oh, say, irritating the king of a powerful city-state? Romantic hero my aunt Fanny. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735/160 "2007-05-23T20:28:51Z")
[QUOTE=CalMeacham] Talk to the Hand. [/QUOTE] Is it covered with well-crafted felt? -Joe [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beloved-characters-you-cant-stand/404735.md?page=9)