# Ben Affleck as "Daredevil"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 1, 2002, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901 "2002-06-01T15:55:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2002, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/21 "2002-06-01T23:19:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by voguevixen \*  
> \*\*Perhaps it’s the extremely large dildo-shaped item on his right leg that makes it seem a tad gay? \*\*

It’s his “baton”.

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**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2002, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/22 "2002-06-01T23:27:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by astro \*  
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> It’s his “baton”. \*\*

Duh, REALLY?!?!?!  
:rolleyes:

I’m trying to help you guys out with your gay analogy is all. (I actually think it looks pretty cool, except for where you can still see part of Affleck’s face.)

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2002, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/23 "2002-06-01T23:35:13Z")

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Daredevil’s costume in the comics _wasn’t leather._ It was the same kind of skin-tight, ultra-thin fantastic fabric that all other superheroes wear; y’know, the kind that looks like it’s painted on and shows off every detail?

The “item” on his right leg is his weapon/tool called a billy club. It has a cable and hook that enables him to swing through the streets _a la_ Batman or Spider-Man and he can throw it or whack a bad guy upside the head with it. Sometimes, in the comics, the artist would draw it on his left leg and eagle-eyed Marvel readers would notice and write letters, hoping to get a Stan Lee no-prize.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/24 "2002-06-02T00:36:39Z")

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I’m personally starting to come to the opinion that the only reason all of these superhero movies are being made all of a sudden is to showcase hot guys in skintight leather/vinyl outfits.

Not that I’m complaining…

jayjay

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**Author:** ![Dumbguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dumbguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dumbguy)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/25 "2002-06-02T00:52:43Z")

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Affleck has a head the size of a Buick. It’s even bigger than Patricia Arquette’s, if that’s possible.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/26 "2002-06-02T02:10:49Z")

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I don’t like the costume much, but DD’s never had that great a costume. As far as superhero costumes on screen go, this isn’t too bad a translation.

But I just have to say: At least they used his red one for the base, not that ugly yellow/black thing he had for a while.

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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/27 "2002-06-02T02:53:08Z")

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Eh, I prefer the issues of “What The?” where they made fun of the fact that DD can’t see colors by having him wear a costume that was, say, a yellow/green/red plaid pattern. 🙂

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/28 "2002-06-02T07:49:28Z")

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I’m going to withold all judgment on costuming and casting and etcetera till the movie comes out. I thought Toby McGuire and Sam Raimi both were terrible, terrible choices for Spider-Man and I admit I’ve done a complete 180. They were both perfect.

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**Author:** ![El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Elvis_Rojo)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/29 "2002-06-02T11:16:47Z")

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Yeah, but Toby McGuire is a good actor. Ben Afflek is shit. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, they need to stop putting him in movies.  
Basically, the only reason he’s in films is because for some unknown reason, women find him attractive. Why are they trying to attract women to a movie like Daredevil? It’d be like throwing a romance plot into a intergallactic war movie…oh wait. It’s a stupid idea, the guy sucks, and the movie is probably going to be shit. But then again, I don’t read Daredevil, so I have no idea.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/30 "2002-06-02T12:31:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by El Elvis Rojo \*  
> \*\*It’d be like throwing a romance plot into a intergallactic war movie…oh wait. \*\*

Damn straight! Those always end with somebody finding out they’re brother and sister!

Getting back to “shiny” issue; shiny implies latex wear, which has a whole bondage/kinky issue in and of itself.

Daredevil’s never been one of my favourite characters (I always hated the way they had him going toe-to-toe with Spider-Man and winning, when Spidey should be able to splatter DD with one punch) but I’ll probably end up seeing the movie, anyway. I’m mildly hoping that _Fantastic Four_ movie will end up on DVD because I have this masochistic desire to occasionally subject myself to truly awful cinema.

Hmm, masochism… maybe I should get some latex.

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**Author:** ![tetsusaru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f14d63/32.png) [@tetsusaru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tetsusaru)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/31 "2002-06-02T12:49:36Z")

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What, no codpiece?

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Stewart\_v3.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@Dave\_Stewart\_v3.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Stewart_v3.0)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/32 "2002-06-02T13:12:47Z")

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I have to admit if I was a superhero, I’d be disguising that chin.

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**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/33 "2002-06-02T15:55:05Z")

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You have to admit, leather is tons more practical for a superhero uniform than the usual nylon/lycra/spandex. I’m not buying the idea that a tights-clad superhero can be showered with shrapnel and come out without a single run in his stockings. Leather should be better able to sheild them from minor scrapes and whip-lashings, etc. Do super-heros sweat though? If so leather is going to be a – wait for it – DEVIL to clean.

I thought guys liked Ben Affleck more than women did. That’s why they keep putting him in movies like _Sum of all Fears_, that astroid one, and that movie about stock trading from a basement. (Plus, he was the bomb in _Phantoms_, yo!)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/34 "2002-06-02T16:02:15Z")

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Guys were watching _Armageddon_ for Bruce Willis, not some candy-ass pretty-boy and his romantic subplot.

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**Author:** ![JDeMobray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@JDeMobray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JDeMobray)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/35 "2002-06-02T17:09:52Z")

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> \*\*I thought guys liked Ben Affleck more than women did.

\*\* I loathe Affleck, in all his incarnations. He is only decent when paired with a script that doesn’t try to make him act (see also _Shakespeare in Love_ or anything directed by Kevin Smith).

As for the costume. Meh. At least it’s the right general color and doesn’t have nipples. They can’t all be Spidey-good.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/36 "2002-06-02T18:50:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jab1 \*  
> \*\*Daredevil’s costume in the comics _wasn’t leather._ It was the same kind of skin-tight, ultra-thin fantastic fabric that all other superheroes wear; y’know, the kind that looks like it’s painted on and shows off every detail?
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> The “item” on his right leg is his weapon/tool called a billy club. It has a cable and hook that enables him to swing through the streets _a la_ Batman or Spider-Man and he can throw it or whack a bad guy upside the head with it. Sometimes, in the comics, the artist would draw it on his left leg and eagle-eyed Marvel readers would notice and write letters, hoping to get a Stan Lee no-prize. \*\*

The fabric is called: “unstable molecules” which was developed by Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four.

Daredevil’s costume AFAIK is not comprised of unstable molecules, nor is Spider-Man’s.

The X-Men do shop at Reed’s fall line as Xavier has mentioned that their costumes are made of “unstable molecules.” I think he works with Janet Van Dyne in a super-hero fashion firm, Reed being the Marvel equivalent of Gaultier, and his wife Sue is just a beard.

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**Author:** ![El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Elvis_Rojo)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/37 "2002-06-02T20:48:50Z")

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The thing I love about wearing leather when I go out a super-heroing…

The way it’s so silent when I’m sneaking around.

That was one of my favorite parts from Blade 2. Here they are, sneaking around this building, looking for baddies, trying to be all sneaky, yet ever step they take is followed by a squeek. I don’t know how much subterfuge and sneaking DD does, but leather just wouldn’t help. And for a guy who’s powers are hightened hearing, you’d think he’d pick something a bit more quiet.

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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/38 "2002-06-02T21:00:37Z")

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The implication is that “unstable molecule” fabric is a whole heck of a lot tougher than mere mortal spandex?

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2002, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/39 "2002-06-02T21:20:49Z")

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Yes, it is. In fact, when one has the powers of certain characters who wear it (Reed Richards and Human Torch, in particular), it will actually survive the contortions, flames, shapechanging, etc that the powers involve. This, of course, is, IIRC, why Reed developed it.

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**Author:** ![detinic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@detinic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detinic)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2002, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-affleck-as-daredevil/111901/40 "2002-06-03T00:57:21Z")

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I don’t think that it looks “gay”. I think it is a good representation of Daredevil. It always looks weird to see a star you know from other things in a role of a super-hero. But I think Ben will be able to “fill the shoes/role” of daredevil.

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