# Ben Carson for President thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 31, 2015, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554 "2015-08-31T22:58:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/241 "2015-10-14T12:03:55Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Clinton would make a much better President than Fiorina. I strongly disagree (not that I like Fiorina) – I don’t believe Carson has much of a grasp of reality. He says crazy things all the time, like he actually seems to believe them. I think he’s a nut, and I’ve seen nothing from him lately that challenges this. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/242 "2015-10-14T15:11:38Z")
I said CLINTON would be a better President than Fiorina. 🙂 Funny that I only just noticed that their names are somewhat similar. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/243 "2015-10-14T15:53:05Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I said CLINTON would be a better President than Fiorina. 🙂 > > Funny that I only just noticed that their names are somewhat similar. Oops, don’t know how I read that wrong. Maybe I confused the thread title with the post. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/244 "2015-10-14T16:25:48Z")
Fiorina would probably be a better President than Carson(virtually anyone other than Trump would be), so I agree with you there too. I’m not actually a supporter of Carson for President at this point, I just have a lot of affection for the man, and I’m sorta rooting for his candidacy to expose the system. It started to look like it might, but then he just fell off the ignorant wagon again, so we’re back to square one on that front. I was hoping he’d be smart enough to get polished by now. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/245 "2015-10-14T20:22:44Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I’m not actually a supporter of Carson for President at this point, I just have a lot of affection for the man, and I’m sorta rooting for his candidacy to expose the system. Who are you supporting this week? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/246 "2015-10-14T20:32:51Z")
Last time he told us, it was Kasich. Except [oops](https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/christie-kasich-fall-1-new-poll_1045190.html). Down to 1% and headed for relegation. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/247 "2015-10-15T14:47:48Z")
[Ben Carson ‘Suspends’ Campaign For A Book Tour](http://huff.to/1LvDM1n) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/248 "2015-10-15T14:59:19Z")
The best thing he can do right now is shut up for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/249 "2015-10-15T15:05:59Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I’m not actually a supporter of Carson for President at this point, I just have a lot of affection for the man, and I’m sorta rooting for his candidacy to expose the system. What is he exposing other than the vacuity of his political views, pray tell? What system are you referring to? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/250 "2015-10-15T15:27:31Z")
The one that generally elects people so cynical and hypocritical that even a total moron like Carson briefly appears to be a viable candidate. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/251 "2015-10-16T03:28:01Z")
My hope was that Carson, due to his intelligence, would learn the craft quickly and become so polished and charismatic that most voters would forget how bad he was early. He’s still got time, not many are paying close attention yet(Carson’s lead over Clinton in polls attests to that), but it’s October now and he’s still having problems. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/252 "2015-10-16T03:53:34Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > My hope was that Carson, due to his intelligence, would learn the craft quickly and become so polished and charismatic that most voters would forget how bad he was early. Here’s an idea. Instead of wanting him to be polished in front of cameras and mikes, how about wanting him to know something about things like foreign policy, or economics, or even non-medical science? Like Sarah Palin, he may not be a complete imbecile, but his stunning ignorance on important issues at his age show that he is not fit to hold any policy-making office, let alone President. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/253 "2015-10-16T05:02:09Z")
Why would I want a Presidential candidate to actually know things? That’s what handlers are for. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/254 "2015-10-16T05:30:04Z")
Well, sure, the pilot is blind, that’s why the dog! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/255 "2015-10-16T05:36:14Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Why would I want a Presidential candidate to actually know things? That’s what handlers are for. It is clear that the distortion field you are getting your info from has not detected the Bush the lesser years. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/256 "2015-10-16T10:59:02Z")
I had thought it was over 24 hours since Candidate Carson had said anything stupid - a new record for the esteemed :rolleyes: doctor. A quick Google News search proved me wrong: [Ben Carson says Americans were better educated in the 1830s than they are today. No, they weren’t.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/10/16/ben-carson-says-americans-were-better-educated-in-the-1830s-no-they-werent/) Someone had to Snopes it for him. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/257 "2015-10-16T13:06:17Z")
Well, surely he can’t be blamed for that. He was just quoting from some guy’s book. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/258 "2015-10-16T13:37:35Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, surely he can’t be blamed for that. He was just quoting from some guy’s book. 😉 And a chain email. You’re forgetting the chain email. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/259 "2015-10-16T15:32:53Z")
Somebody better explain to Dr. Carson what a “chain” e-mail is, so that he doesn’t get the wrong idea. ---
**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/260 "2015-10-16T20:31:42Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Ben Carson is on CNN right now, and Wolf Blitzer, with reference to Rupert Murdoch’s tweet that Carson would be “a real black President”, asked Carson is President Obama was a real black President. Carson refused to answer, demurring on what he called “semantics”. “He is the President; and he is black.” But he could not say the words, “Obama is a real black president.” Actually I don’t blame him. The words are not Ben Carson’s, and the last thing anyone needs is some kind of “black-off.” These are two men of incredible accomplishment in their fields, and to force either one of them to address Murdoch’s racist comment would be an insult to them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554.md?page=14)