# Ben Carson for President thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 31, 2015, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554 "2015-08-31T22:58:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/161 "2015-10-02T01:08:02Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > “SDAs”? 7th Day Adventists. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/162 "2015-10-02T01:08:43Z")
Sexually Distressed Aardvarks. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/163 "2015-10-02T01:47:17Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Don’t you worry none, if he gets any real traction (and he won’t) the Kochs will find his price and meet it. If Mr. Sanders is so corruptible, the voters should choose someone like Hillary Clinton, with her devotion to Lady Poverty. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/164 "2015-10-02T02:38:55Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > 7th Day Adventists. Thank you. I forget that everyone doesn’t know who they are or the abbreviation they usually use to describe themselves. A fast growing, but still relatively small Christian denomination. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/165 "2015-10-02T02:43:33Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Don’t you worry none, if he gets any real traction (and he won’t) the Kochs will find his price and meet it. Even if his price is a social-democratic America? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/166 "2015-10-02T02:45:20Z")
The Kochs aren’t buying politicians, they are “buying” voters. They understand the new game of politics better than most. Buying politicians is so old hat and they don’t stay bought anyway. But get voters riled up and they’ll nominate candidates you like for you. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/167 "2015-10-02T02:47:12Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > 7th Day Adventists. Ah. Well, considering [what the actual Nazis did to Jehovah’s Witnesses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jehovah's_Witnesses_in_Nazi_Germany) (pretty much the same thing, right? ;)), one can perhaps understand SDAs being a bit paranoid . . . ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/168 "2015-10-02T02:50:39Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The Kochs aren’t buying politicians, they are “buying” voters. They understand the new game of politics better than most. Buying politicians is so old hat and they don’t stay bought anyway. But get voters riled up and they’ll nominate candidates you like for you. Well, it’s true that the Koch organ [Americans for Prosperity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_for_Prosperity) played an important role in starting the Tea Party movement . . . but, considering how much traction Donald Trump is now getting with the Teabaggers, Charles and David might now be thinking that they have foolishly called up something that they cannot again put down . . . ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/169 "2015-10-02T02:56:16Z")
Trump isn’t really a Tea Party phenomenon. He draws support from across the GOP spectrum, mainly due to name recognition. The Tea Party candidates are Ted Cruz and to a lesser extent Carly Fiorina. That’s why Rubio might end up being the guy in the end. He’s the only one with cred in all the factions of the GOP. Sure, everyone has a little problem with him, but no one has a huge problem with him. Carson is your typical evangelical favorite, aside from the fact that he’s not a politician. But his voters are mainly from the same group that supported Huck and then Santorum, plus a few first time voters who are attracted to his newness. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/170 "2015-10-03T06:18:10Z")
He really is looking like a game changer. He turned a single mom piano player into a $100,000 bundler: > **[Ben Carson raising millions to become fundraising juggernaut](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ben-carson-raising-millions-to-become-fundraising-juggernaut/)** > > The GOP hopeful's campaign says it has raised more than $20 million in the past three months ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/171 "2015-10-03T06:48:34Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > … Rubio … Sure, everyone has a little problem with him, but no one has a huge problem with him… Right over here, huge. Like this sort of huge. > [@](#): > > …I just think you’ve created an industry now - a situation where very much, you’ve created an incentive for people not just to look forward to having more abortions, but being able to sell that fetal tissue - these centers - for purposes of making a profit off it, as you’ve seen in some of these Planned Parenthood affiliates… [http://theslot.jezebel.com/marco-rub...war-1732124335](http://theslot.jezebel.com/marco-rub...war-1732124335) Yeah, that’s the sort of thing gets on my nerves. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/172 "2015-10-03T10:29:01Z")
Ben Carson is [baffled by physics:](http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/ben-carson-asks-gravity-where-did-it-come) > [@](#): > > “Just the way the Earth rotates on its axis, how far away it is from the sun. These are all very complex things. Gravity, where did it come from?” ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/173 "2015-10-03T10:38:46Z")
Since physicists don’t even yet know what gravity IS, I wouldn’t exactly call that a particularly ignorant statement. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/174 "2015-10-03T11:21:27Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Since physicists don’t even yet know what gravity IS, I wouldn’t exactly call that a particularly ignorant statement. Especially for him. It’s like getting Stalin for jaywalking. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/175 "2015-10-03T15:24:49Z")
Fuckin’ magnets, how do they work? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/176 "2015-10-03T15:57:21Z")
Very small tractor beams. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/177 "2015-10-03T21:31:56Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > He really is looking like a game changer. He turned a single mom piano player into a $100,000 bundler: Looks like he’s reporting a nice quarterly fundraising haul. Not Clinton or Sanders money but in the broad field 20 million is big. Of course. his position in the polls should come with increased fundraising. If he wasn’t raising a lot it would suggest either campaign staff mismanagement or a weakness in his actual support. Less than two weeks till we get the released quarterly financials to see where the entire field stacks up. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/178 "2015-10-04T03:29:46Z")
Sometimes candidates do well in the polls but are still poor fundraisers. Huckabee won Iowa and still couldn’t raise anything in 2008. Carson’s fundraising is remarkable. And means he is actually going to be a contender. ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/179 "2015-10-04T03:56:50Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Since physicists don’t even yet know what gravity IS, I wouldn’t exactly call that a particularly ignorant statement. Physicists have specific technical questions about gravity and how to reconcile it with quantum mechanics in those regimes where both are significant. What happens in a black hole, or what happened in the very early universe – these are hard questions. How gravity works here on Earth is much more well understood, and in fact technology like the Global Positioning System relies on this understanding. Carson seems to be saying something more like: “Look, science is really hard, so let’s not listen to it when it comes to global warming.” ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554/180 "2015-10-04T04:18:31Z")
There’s a big difference between what can be disproven and what can’t be. Climate change is forecasting and unfalsifiable. I accept that there’s good science behind the forecasts and the data supports it, but let’s be clear that in order for climate change to be hard science, it has to be falsifiable and it isn’t. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-for-president-thread/729554.md?page=10)