# Ben Carson: Hitler is Coming **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 5, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610 "2015-10-05T14:12:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/21 "2015-10-05T22:48:02Z")
Sounds like George Orwell to me, who, as I recall, was also a conservative brain surgeon. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/22 "2015-10-05T23:11:52Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Free speech has been under attack for years. Obama wants to make free speech a hate crime…you cannot tell the truth about anything now. For example, Dr. Carson speaking his mind about islam and sharia was immediately attacked as “hate speech”. Academia censures anyone who doesn’t toe the line. This process of self-elimination is why we can’t have a nice Republican President. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/23 "2015-10-05T23:28:51Z")
[QUOTE=Daily Beast] He suggested that there is already somebody currently in the United States who is like Adolf Hitler. But is it Obama? No, of course not! “I’m not going to go into that that. I think that example is pretty clear,” Carson said when asked this question. When pressed, he denied that he was implying Obama was like Hitler. “No. I am saying in a situation where people do not express themselves, bad things can happen.” [/QUOTE] Apparently Carson and Trump have similar _modus operandi_. Carson knows who the Hitler threat is. Trump knows how to make the economy great, replace Obamacare with something terrific, and Make a Deal™ with all foreign leaders to make them do what he wants. But in all cases, **it’s a secret**! You have to elect them to find out! I say vote for Trump. You get three secrets for just one vote. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/24 "2015-10-05T23:39:26Z")
Well, thanks, all. It looks like it IS another variation on the “overly-PC” idea. Looked like it might be something different at first. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/25 "2015-10-06T00:12:44Z")
If Carson’s pre-op consultations were anything like his speeches or debates, it’s a miracle anybody ever submitted to his knife. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/26 "2015-10-06T01:16:48Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Apparently Carson and Trump have similar _modus operandi_. Carson knows who the Hitler threat is. Trump knows how to make the economy great, replace Obamacare with something terrific, and Make a Deal™ with all foreign leaders to make them do what he wants. But in all cases, **it’s a secret**! You have to elect them to find out! > > I say vote for Trump. You get three secrets for just one vote. Hey, it worked for Nixon. ([Interestingly, Nixon never said he had a secret plan to end the Vietnam war, but he never corrected the editors that had gotten that impression, Nixon just manipulated the doves while assuring the hawks](http://www.csmonitor.com/1997/1209/120997.opin.column.1.html)) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/27 "2015-10-06T01:23:01Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > If Carson’s pre-op consultations were anything like his speeches or debates, it’s a miracle anybody ever submitted to his knife. He put them to sleep. No need for anesthesia. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/28 "2015-10-06T02:13:00Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Hey, it worked for Nixon. ([Interestingly, Nixon never said he had a secret plan to end the Vietnam war, but he never corrected the editors that had gotten that impression, Nixon just manipulated the doves while assuring the hawks](http://www.csmonitor.com/1997/1209/120997.opin.column.1.html)) Yep. And Nixon actually got re-elected, so everyone got to find out the Secret. The Secret, as it turned out, was that Nixon was a crook. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/29 "2015-10-06T02:58:24Z")
I’m pretty sure this comes from his religion. My wife is also SDA and also says Hitler is coming. They don’t know who it is, but America falling into totalitarianism seems to be part of their mythology, even though it’s not based on anything biblical as far as I can tell unless they are referring to the antichrist. That probably is what they are thinking actually, but it’s not like you can stop the antichrist. That’s part of God’s plan. So why worry about it? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/30 "2015-10-06T06:45:42Z")
SDA? ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/31 "2015-10-06T07:36:38Z")
Seventh Day Adventists ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/32 "2015-10-06T12:40:51Z")
Okay, but a lot of functioning (if not particularly reflective) adults who aren’t SDA believe this stuff. Why? What leads people who live every day in this country, who watch (some version of) the news, who talk to people, who use the internet daily to say things like “Obama wants to make free speech **illegal** ” and _mean it_? Where does the impetus to promulgate these ideas come from? Is it that the specific meanings of words don’t register or matter to them, is it just intellectual laziness and unwillingness to think about these contentions before repeating them, or is it something else? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/33 "2015-10-06T13:13:08Z")
> [@tumbleddown](#): > > Okay, but a lot of functioning (if not particularly reflective) adults who aren’t SDA believe this stuff. Why? What leads people who live every day in this country, who watch (some version of) the news, who talk to people, who use the internet daily to say things like “Obama wants to make free speech **illegal** ” and _mean it_? Where does the impetus to promulgate these ideas come from? Is it that the specific meanings of words don’t register or matter to them, is it just intellectual laziness and unwillingness to think about these contentions before repeating them, or is it something else? It’s because Obama has been so rude as to deprive them of real world things to hate him for. Their amygdala tells them he is too different to be trusted, yet they struggle to find a rational basis for their loathing. This cognitive dissonance forces them to create fictional offenses to justify their primal revulsion; otherwise, they would have to face the truth that their fundamental beliefs are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/34 "2015-10-06T20:25:31Z")
[In the Not Quite Getting The Problem Department, Carson would not go meet with the families of the Umpqua victims:](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/ben-carson-would-skip-meeting-families-of-oregon-mass-shooting-but-would-probably-go-to-the-next-one/) > [@](#): > > “But, Dr. Carson, would you go?” host Brian Kilmeade wondered. “If the people of the community say don’t go, would you still go if you were president on Friday?” > > “Probably not,” Carson replied. “I mean, I would probably have so many things on my agenda that I would go to the next one.” Yes, there will be a next one, and soon. At least he has that right. But \*why \*skip this one, really? > [@](#): > > … conservative journalist David Jaques said that Obama was not welcome in his state because it would be “a campaign stop for agenda to take away American citizen’s right to own firearms.” Well, screw you too, buddy, but at least you’re not running. [And, in a similar vein:](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/carson-loss-gun-rights-more-devastating-bullet-wounds-n439251) > [@](#): > > Ben Carson again weighed in on the Oregon shooting, writing that he had operated on victims of gun violence “but I never saw a body with bullet holes that was more devastating than taking the right to arm ourselves away.” First, do no harm, Doctor. To illustrate that he’s never going to get it anyway: > [@](#): > > “You don’t need to know nearly as much to be able to maneuver in the political world as you do in the operating room inside of somebody’s brain. It’s not even close,” he said. No, it isn’t close. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/35 "2015-10-06T22:03:03Z")
And, yet, he’s second in the polls. Mr. GeniusL1ves, is not even close. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/36 "2015-10-06T22:56:30Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Mr. GeniusL1ves, is not even close. Do not mangle other poster’s usernames outside The BBQ Pit. Knock it off. [/Moderating.] ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/37 "2015-10-07T02:50:18Z")
Wait, Carson _isn’t_ telling us that _he’s_ the “Hitler”? Are you sure? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/38 "2015-10-07T12:31:18Z")
Given his background, it’s possible he really meant Obama is the Antichrist, like so many of his fellow Believers. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/39 "2015-10-07T23:52:42Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Given his background, it’s possible he really meant Obama is the Antichrist, like so many of his fellow Believers. That belief isn’t nearly as prevalent as it was in 2009, at least in my limited experience. I think even the irrational ones have to look at what Obama has done the last 7 years and realize it hasn’t been that bad. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610/40 "2015-10-08T12:46:22Z")
The same people claimed Bill Clinton was the Antichrist, and will no doubt claim Hillary is too. It would be laughable if it weren’t so prevalent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ben-carson-hitler-is-coming/733610.md?page=3)