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It showed images of Nazi Germany and Communist Russia underneath the lyrics – juxtaposing lines like “…and no religion too” with a shot of Stalin. Real subtle stuff. Basically they were trying to demonize atheism (which the movie constantly conflates with evolutionary theory as part of its imaginary doctrine of “Dawinism”).
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Ok, thanks for the description. Talk about taking a song out of context. :rolleyes:
Expelled has fallen out of IMDB’s Top 10 at the Box Office. I believe that this calls for a “W00t!” So,
w00t!
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Expelled has fallen out of IMDB’s Top 10 at the Box Office. I believe that this calls for a “W00t!” So,
w00t!
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Which is clearly due to all the bashing from liberals who hate the truth, which indicates that the film was right on the mark!
(w00sh)
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Which is clearly due to all the bashing from liberals who hate the truth, which indicates that the film was right on the mark!
(w00sh)
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But at the time, wasn’t Jesus considered a liberal 
I can’t believe no one has mentioned this yet. Stein was on Craig Ferguson’s show last week and he said (and I’m not making this up) that the film is:
[I’ve trimmed out some funny, but inessential, banter.]
Like most here, I haven’t seen the film, but the reviews I’ve read said nothing about this bizarre claim that some defenders of evolution believe it explains astronomy. Obviously, no one with an IQ above George Bush’s approval rating believes this.
I once assumed that, even if I disagreed with his politics, Stein had some principles, but now it’s clear that he and his partners in this project are merely despicable, lying scum.
Video of Craig Ferguson appearance here. Does anyone else get the sense that Ferguson was really champing at the bit to say something like “What are you talking about? Who expects ‘Darwinism’ to cover gravity?”, but was restrained by politeness (professional obligation and/or intrinsic)? Perhaps that’s just wishful thinking/projection on my part.
I guess since Creationism is a grotesque monster stitched together from scraps of disciplines ranging from biology to physics to astronomy, they assume that Evolution, as the other in their imaginary twin set of “both theories” must also encompass gravity, the origin of life, etc.
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Video of Craig Ferguson appearance here. Does anyone else get the sense that Ferguson was really champing at the bit to say something like “What are you talking about? Who expects ‘Darwinism’ to cover gravity?”, but was restrained by politeness (professional obligation and/or intrinsic)? Perhaps that’s just wishful thinking/projection on my part.
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In fact, the audience reaction to the bit about astronomy makes me think the audience in general understood that Stein is being completely stupid.
Oh how I wish to see Stein on Stewert or Colbert. Oh please, if there’s a God in heaven…
-FrL-
If you click on only one Ben Stein link, make it this one:
Uncle Ben says "**Science leads you to killing people **. "
He actually says that. Those words.
Interesting video, Sampiro. Note the part about 2:50 in, when Stein is describing the threat posed by other countries, that Kim Jong Il’s picture is superimposed over a North Korean flag. The flag, and the star in the middle, are upside-down.
Subtle.
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Interesting video, Sampiro. Note the part about 2:50 in, when Stein is describing the threat posed by other countries, that Kim Jong Il’s picture is superimposed over a North Korean flag. The flag, and the star in the middle, are upside-down.
Subtle.
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Well, it’s obviously a distress signal. The subtext is that N. Korea actually *wants *our help and this is what we should use to justify an invasion.
Just when you thought good ole Ben couldn’t be a bigger squid’s dick, he goes and outdoes himself.
This is hate speech, plain and simple. Eat a big bag of hickory smoked horse assholes you ignorant asshat.
Actually, it’s just poorly grammatically constructed speech.
That should read “Love of God, and compassion, and empathy lead you to…”
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Actually, it’s just poorly grammatically constructed speech.
That should read “Love of God, and compassion, and empathy lead you to…”
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So, love of God, and compassion, and empathy lead you to bad grammar, and science leads you to perfectly constructed sentences, huh?
If that’s what Ben Stein is saying, then I must agree with him. But I don’t understand why he made a movie about it.
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Just when you thought good ole Ben couldn’t be a bigger squid’s dick, he goes and outdoes himself.
This is hate speech, plain and simple. Eat a big bag of hickory smoked horse assholes you ignorant asshat.
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And would this also qualify as hate speech?
I’m not defending Ben Stein; from what I’ve heard about this movie and the statements he’s made about religion and science I’ve lost all the respect I used to have for him. But our favorite rabid atheist says things like this about religion all the time, and I can’t remember any time it’s been called “hate speech”.
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I’m not defending Ben Stein; from what I’ve heard about this movie and the statements he’s made about religion and science I’ve lost all the respect I used to have for him. But our favorite rabid atheist says things like this about religion all the time, and I can’t remember any time it’s been called “hate speech”.
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No, I don’t think it is. Of course, I’m not sure Stein’s is either. It doesn’t really fit the definition, and neither does Der Trihs’s. He isn’t attacking someone on the basis of their religion, he’s attacking religion.
To quoque. Just because Der Trihs is as big of a dick as Ben Stein, that doesn’t make what Ben Stein said any better. And plenty of people on this board, this atheist included, have called Der Trihs a dick.
And here’s more of the quote:
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John Derbyshire’s full editorial condemning Stein, “A Blood Libel on Our Civilization,” at National Review Online (a site I rarely agree with or refer people to), is well worth reading.
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Just when you thought good ole Ben couldn’t be a bigger squid’s dick, he goes and outdoes himself.
This is hate speech, plain and simple. Eat a big bag of hickory smoked horse assholes you ignorant asshat.
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An excellent example of how Love of God and compassion and empathy leading you to a very glorious place is, of course, the Thirty Years’ War , in Europe
I wonder if Jimmy Kimmel will make a speech denouncing his relationship with Ben Stein.