# Benghazi Attack for Dummies. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 8, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466 "2013-11-08T23:46:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Acewiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@Acewiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acewiza)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/301 "2013-11-21T17:32:18Z")
Hillary Clinton: > [@](#): > > “With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night decided to go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make?” Clinton asked the Republican Senator. I know what difference it makes. Do you? 😕 Knowing what we know now, interpret the utter stupidity and careless indifference in that remark. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/302 "2013-11-21T17:34:12Z")
> [@Acewiza](#): > > I’m not saying it was wrong to kill Obama. Pardon me, but your slip is showing. > [@](#): > > That’s six. Do we get egg roll now? ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/303 "2013-11-21T17:35:50Z")
> [@Acewiza](#): > > Hillary Clinton: > > I know what difference it makes. Do you? 😕 > > Knowing what we know now, interpret the utter stupidity and careless indifference in that remark. Nice Gish Gallop. You wrote: > [@Acewiza](#): > > The substance I have clearly shown is how Benghazi apologists used nothing but fallacies and illogical thinking in support of their position. Do you stand by that, or are you content to rapidly shift gears to avoid having to defend it? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/304 "2013-11-21T17:39:19Z")
> [@Acewiza](#): > > Hillary Clinton: > > I know what difference it makes. Do you? 😕 > > Knowing what we know now, interpret the utter stupidity and careless indifference in that remark. Even WITH the context, you choose to see the “indifferent” interpretation. She’s asking what difference it makes as to WHY the attack happened. You’re interpreting it as what difference it makes that 4 people died. That’s either deliberate lying or hopeless stupidity, and I’m calling it out, come mod or high water. I’m getting tired of playing the simpering dope for the good of some kind of false ‘civility’ while people like you and **Magiver** lie and twist and deliberately misinterpret FACTS that are being cited AND quoted to you. It’s a sucker’s game and I’m not playing it anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Acewiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@Acewiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acewiza)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/305 "2013-11-21T17:41:03Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > Do you stand by that, or are you content to rapidly shift gears to avoid having to defend it? I’m talking about Hillary Clinton in the context of Benghazi for Dummies. She is the biggest dummy of them all. Institutionalized dumbness led to 4 dead Americans on her watch. That’s really all any dummy needs to know about this. What are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Acewiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@Acewiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acewiza)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/306 "2013-11-21T17:42:55Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > She’s asking what difference it makes as to WHY the attack happened. It makes a BIG difference WHY it happened, and apparently you don’t know it either. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/307 "2013-11-21T17:44:20Z")
> [@Acewiza](#): > > I’m talking about Hillary Clinton in the context of Benghazi for Dummies. She is the biggest dummy of them all. Institutionalized dumbness led to 4 dead Americans on her watch. > > That’s really all any dummy needs to know about this. > > What are you talking about? I’m talking about the post of yours I quoted. The way you could tell was that I quoted the post, and asked a single question about it. ---
**Author:** ![Acewiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@Acewiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acewiza)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/308 "2013-11-21T17:47:21Z")
I’ll give you a hint JayJay: The reason it happened was not due to a video, spontaneous demonstration or some guys out for walk. ---
**Author:** ![Acewiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@Acewiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acewiza)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/309 "2013-11-21T17:48:55Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > I’m talking about the post of yours I quoted. The way you could tell was that I quoted the post, and asked a single question about it. Stop quoting me. You’re making it difficult to focus on the substance of this debate. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/310 "2013-11-21T17:54:06Z")
> [@Acewiza](#): > > Stop quoting me. You’re making it difficult to focus on the substance of this debate. :rolleyes: Uh huh. It’s fine for you to make accusations of debating via “fallacies and illogical thinking”, complete with a precious little counting game, but when challenged to back up your accusations, you’ve got nothing but bluster and misdirection. I figured as much. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/311 "2013-11-21T18:46:45Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Do you have anything of substance to add to this debate? Because there was actually a pretty rousing discussion on Benghazi going on before this was derailed to the “look how many fancy terms **Acewiza** can throw around to get attention” show. Speaking of which let’s move that discussion [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16867486#post16867486). ---
**Author:** ![Acewiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@Acewiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acewiza)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/312 "2013-11-21T18:53:39Z")
I’ll _ **take** _ some literary license until you fools _ **learn** _ a few facts. Better typing skills would be nice too! 😛 Y’all up for it. Buds? ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/313 "2013-11-21T19:08:02Z")
All right, after shouting four or five times that it is all Hillary’s fault, go ahead and explain _why_ you think it is all her fault. ---
**Author:** ![Acewiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@Acewiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acewiza)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/314 "2013-11-21T19:20:04Z")
If you fail to provide minimally adequate security for your people, you have no business being in a position of leadership. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/315 "2013-11-21T19:34:33Z")
> [@Acewiza](#): > > If you fail to provide minimally adequate security for your people, you have no business being in a position of leadership. Gee, how did Rumsfeld stay in office for three years after the lack of armored Humvees and shortage of SAPI plates became front page news? ---
**Author:** ![Acewiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@Acewiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acewiza)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/316 "2013-11-21T19:40:58Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Gee, how did Rumsfeld stay in office for three years after the lack of armored Humvees and shortage of SAPI plates became front page news? Bad analogy. Stevens and associates were on a diplomatic mission, not combatants in a war. Other rebuttals to the Rumsfeld matter are outside the scope of this discussion. Seven. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/317 "2013-11-21T19:43:11Z")
> [@Acewiza](#): > > Bad analogy. Stevens and associates were on a diplomatic mission, not combatants in a war. Other rebuttals to the Rumsfeld matter are outside the scope of this discussion. > > Seven. Failing to back up an overbroad statement that you made. Eight nine ten. ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/318 "2013-11-21T19:44:22Z")
> [@Acewiza](#): > > If you fail to provide minimally adequate security for your people, you have no business being in a position of leadership. That’s it? Really? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/319 "2013-11-21T19:52:54Z")
> [@Acewiza](#): > > Bad analogy. Stevens and associates were on a diplomatic mission, not combatants in a war. By the way, how do you explain Reagan staying in office after 241 Marines were killed while on a peacekeeping mission! ELEVEN!! 11!! ---
**Author:** ![Acewiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@Acewiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acewiza)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466/320 "2013-11-21T19:59:36Z")
Wow, you can count too? I’m impressed. Better not go much further since it looks like you’re on your toes and will soon need to start over. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-attack-for-dummies/673466.md?page=17)