# Benghazi- give up the faux scandal already. It didn't work. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 12, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825 "2012-11-12T20:57:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/21 "2012-11-12T23:58:40Z")
Didn’t Romney try to bring this up in the 2nd Debate and get smacked down? Even the moderator said he wrong? “Look at the transcript!” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/22 "2012-11-13T00:23:53Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I don’t see how people can’t accurately call it a scandal. David Petraeus should be tried for treason and dereliction of duty for failing to answer his phone when his CIA subordinates were frantically calling him for guidance on sending assets to help the consulate because he was too busy banging his mistress to be arsed to pick up the phone. Don’t you DARE try to out-crazy my “lizard people” post. I have backup crazy posts I haven’t even used yet… ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/23 "2012-11-13T00:42:15Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I don’t see how people can’t accurately call it a scandal. David Petraeus should be tried for treason and dereliction of duty for failing to answer his phone when his CIA subordinates were frantically calling him for guidance on sending assets to help the consulate because he was too busy banging his mistress to be arsed to pick up the phone. If this _were_ true, I think it would be legit to call him out for having the entire CIA apparently be completely paralyzed unless Patraeus is personally on the phone making every call? That’d be an exceptionally ineffective way to run a huge international agency, wouldn’t it? I can see it now… Guy on ground: “Hey, everyone is being attacked! What do we do?” Supervisor on ground: “I don’t know. I guess we should call our boss…_ring ring_…Hi boss, everyone is being attacked, what do we do?” Supervisor’s supervisor: “Hmmmm…good question. I’ll call my boss” …some time later… Supervisor’s supervisor’s supervisor’s supervisor: “Hey boss, shit is going down in Libya. Should we do something?” Supervisor’s supervisor’s supervisor’s supervisor’s supervisor: "I guess we need to call Patraeus…_ring ring_…Aw shuck, no answer. Fuck it, I guess. Our only other option is to sit around watching everyone get slaughtered. Someone else “Yeah. Sucks there is only one person in all of America who can make decisions to respond to an attack on American interests. I guess we didn’t think that through very well.” ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/24 "2012-11-13T00:46:42Z")
I get the sense that some people feel like if they just say “Benghazi” enough times, it will trigger an automatic do-over of the election and this time Romney gets to win. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/25 "2012-11-13T00:54:00Z")
Fucking ridiculous. Petreaus is a lifer to the bone. Civilians, turds are tapered, lifers like him, turds are clipped square. Sure, he’ll stick himself in the wrong honey pot, you betcha. But put himself where he cannot be reached to make the command decision? Without being sure that some else is deputized to make that decision if he can’t be found? Nope. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/26 "2012-11-13T02:07:30Z")
Here’s a rule about scandals: **If you can’t articulate what the hell someone did wrong, it’s not a scandal.** Honestly, I cannot for the life of me get a straight story on what the scandal here is supposed to be. Is is that Obama didn’t call it terrorism? Is it that they knew the attack was coming? Is it that they didn’t know, but should have? Is it that they thought it was due to some video but it wasn’t? Just what exactly is the scandal? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/27 "2012-11-13T02:10:10Z")
Well, all of that, of course! And if any of it is proven untrue, then all the rest! ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/28 "2012-11-13T04:15:24Z")
The scandal is that Obama and everyone else KNEW that there was no protest, that the video had nothing to do with anything, but for some reason when they first started talking about it, they mentioned the video as a possibility that sparked a protest that might have gotten out of hand and led to the attack. The people who are calling it a scandal are saying that there were plenty of eye witnesses at the event that the President and others had access to at the time, and before any announcements, ruled out the protest/video at all. So it is puzzling that Obama or whoever would float that as a possibility. It is true that he never came out and claimed that it was a protest that got out of hand, sparked by the video. Just that it was a possibility. Then you get into arguments about how they had requested extra security and got denied, someone dropped the ball, it was a snafu from the beginning, etc. To be honest, there are some puzzling things about it, and when Obama went on the Daily show he kind of dodged the questions and spun his answers, and it seemed obvious to me that Obama knew he screwed up a bit. But anyway, like I said, there is a molehill there, but the right has basically just turned it into a mountain. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/29 "2012-11-13T04:21:48Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Fucking ridiculous. Petreaus is a lifer to the bone. Civilians, turds are tapered, lifers like him, turds are clipped square. . . . And, of course, “Ghazi” is another word for latrine. It’s all starting to congeal! ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/30 "2012-11-13T04:22:26Z")
> [@brainglutton](#): > > pubs take note: The correct spelling is “labia.” lmao 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/31 "2012-11-13T04:35:06Z")
Well, if you can’t lick 'em… ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/32 "2012-11-13T04:40:39Z")
New Internet Meme (tell Snopes I thought of it first): Did you know that in the Libyan language, “Ben” means “Water” and “Ghazi” means “Gate.” It’s true! ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/33 "2012-11-13T04:41:00Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > And, of course, “Ghazi” is another word for latrine. It’s all starting to congeal! That’s [“khazi”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet). A [Ghazi](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazi) is a different thing entirely, although both may be flushed with enthusiasm. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/34 "2012-11-13T04:41:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well, all of that, of course! And if any of it is proven untrue, then all the rest! This is actually a better campaign slogan than the one Romney used. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/35 "2012-11-13T05:17:20Z")
> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#): > > That’s [“khazi”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet). A [Ghazi](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazi) is a different thing entirely, although both may be flushed with enthusiasm. Kaddafi, Gaddafi…same thing… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/36 "2012-11-13T05:42:43Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > And by 2015, maybe the majority will have stopped spelling it Lybia! As long as they don’t spell it Labia, I’m giving them a pass. Nobody want to hear about a terrorist attack on Labia. ETA: \*\*Braingluttooooooon \*\*! _shakefist_ ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/37 "2012-11-13T06:47:46Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > They lied about the fact that they had to kill the ambassador in order to cover up the fact that he knew who really killed Vince Foster (hint: it was the lizard people) I thought that while Hillary arranged the hit, the trigger was actually pulled by a young Chicago “community organizer” named Barry Soetero. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/38 "2012-11-13T06:51:37Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > As long as they don’t spell it Labia, I’m giving them a pass. Nobody want to hear about a terrorist attack on Labia. On the other hand, missile attacks on Labia are fairly popular. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/39 "2012-11-13T07:56:15Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > On the other hand, missile attacks on Labia are fairly popular. [Me, after reading that.](http://i.imgur.com/06H5B.png) ---
**Author:** ![Engineer\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9fc29f/32.png) [@Engineer\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Engineer_Dude)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825/40 "2012-11-13T16:38:40Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Pubs take note: The correct spelling is “Labia.” I hope people are serious about spelling it correctly, and not just paying lip service. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/benghazi-give-up-the-faux-scandal-already-it-didnt-work/640825.md?page=3)