# Berkeley, CA is Guantanamo West **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 11, 2011, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003 "2011-02-11T09:10:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![terryobrien80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@terryobrien80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terryobrien80)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003/1 "2011-02-11T09:10:27Z")
FEBRUARY 10, 2011 **Berkeley, CA: Guantanamo West** By Monica Crowley LINK\> [Monica Crowley: Berkeley, CA: Guantanamo West](http://monicamemo.typepad.com/weblog/2011/02/berkeley-ca-guantanamo-west.html) What is it with liberals wanting to bring terrorists to the United States? First we saw President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder announce that they’d like to transfer Guantanamo Bay detainees to U.S. soil to stand trial in civilian courts. When the American people and most members of his own party went bananas and NIMBY on him, Obama pulled back on the asinine plan. But it prompted an obvious question: with Islamic terrorists desperately trying to get INTO the United States, why would we CHOOSE to invite them in? ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003/2 "2011-02-11T09:14:21Z")
Prepare to be skewered… ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003/3 "2011-02-11T09:18:15Z")
A “detainee” who has been “cleared of wrongdoing” is not a “terrorist.” Shouldn’t a person meeting that criteria be free (i.e., not detained)? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003/4 "2011-02-11T09:20:33Z")
Perhaps you should read rule #3 about posting on this message board. You can find it at the top of the main page. Tell you what, I’ll just post it here for you. > [@](#): > > What’s the policy on copyrights? > Our sponsor, the Chicago READER, has a strict policy on respecting copyrights and copyrighted material. They don’t want their stuff used by others without permission, and so we don’t use stuff created by others without permission. Basically, The policy is : don’t do it. > > The rules of the Straight Dope Message Board are enforced by volunteer moderators who are not all legal experts in these matters. So we offer a set of guidelines that may be more conservative or stringent than the law in your jurisdiction, but that we think may help avoid the copyright violation issue. In this as in many other matters we depend not only on moderator enforcement, but also ask for the cooperation and goodwill of our posters. > > Suggested guidelines: > (1) If you are going to quote something from an article, quote less than 5% of the source. Include a link to the article if the article is available online. > > (2) Only quote directly in very rare circumstances. Instead of repeating a source word-for-word, read the article, attempt to understand it, and rephrase what it says in your own words. Again, include a link to the source if the source is available online. Otherwise indicate a reference to the source (e.g. Science News, issue x, pages yy-zz). > > (3) Minor changes in quoted text are permitted, as long as such changes are clearly identified (e.g., ellipses … for omitted material, square brackets for added material, etc.) Changes that alter the tenor or interject editorial comment are not permitted. If you want to comment on a quote, do it outside the quotation marks or quote tags. > > (4) If you’re quoting from short works – such as song lyrics, poems, short prose, etc: please quote only what is sufficient to make your point. Generally, that would be a few lines at most. If you want to refer to long passages, provide a hyperlink to a site that has rights to reproduce the material. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003/5 "2011-02-11T09:53:30Z")
This is the second thread he’s done this…and he was told not to do it again in the first one. Reported again. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003/6 "2011-02-11T10:03:14Z")
Too funny - a link to the page, then a cut and paste of the entire blog post, and tops it off with the link yet again. ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003/7 "2011-02-11T10:37:31Z")
wow ---
**Author:** ![terryobrien80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@terryobrien80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terryobrien80)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003/8 "2011-02-11T10:42:55Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Prepare to be skewered… Not worried. Liberals love to talk, but their words hold little truth if any. I will be insulted and belittled I am sure… …all bleesings for me. I welcome them. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003/9 "2011-02-11T10:57:37Z")
Your sanctimonious attitude is truly something to behold. You go out of your way to insult people, and then get offended if someone uses a cuss word. This message board is great because, for the most part, there is honest debate and discussions; it is not filled with people that don’t care about learning from someone with a different perspective on things. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003/10 "2011-02-11T11:01:29Z")
> [@terryobrien80](#): > > Liberals love to talk, but their words hold little truth if any. The term “[psychological projection](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection)” comes to mind here. You are describing yourself, not liberals. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003/11 "2011-02-11T11:18:43Z")
**terryobrien** , this is the third and final time I am going to tell you: do not copy and paste entire articles into your posts. Quote a few paragraphs at most and provide a link. This is an easy rule to follow and it’s a stupid thing to get yourself warned over, but I will start giving you official warnings the next time you do it, and too many of those will lead to your account being suspended or banned. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/berkeley-ca-is-guantanamo-west/571003/12 "2011-02-11T11:38:45Z")
Since the OP has been banned and no debate had materialized here, I’m locking this thread.