# Bermuda Triangle - may have claimed another victim **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 3, 2015, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402 "2015-10-03T19:38:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/21 "2015-10-04T00:26:36Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Your OP didn’t sound like a skeptic talking. For one thing, I doubt that a skeptic would even think of mentioning the Bermuda Triangle when something happens in the area. Have these books and tv shows been a part of your life for 40 years? Its ingrained in mine, just like the JFK conspiracy, Woodstock, and Watergate. Cultural events we experienced in childhood stay with us forever. The Bermuda Triangle theory remained popular well over ten years. It still comes up when ships or planes disappear in that area. It’s a popular theory that sells books nothing more. No science supports it. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/22 "2015-10-04T00:29:45Z")
When I was ten years old, I was credulous about things like the Bermuda Triangle or the nutball theories of Erich von Däniken. (I think Leonard Nimoy’s _In Search of_ was on TV at the time.) But then I grew up. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/23 "2015-10-04T00:57:42Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [From here.](http://gizmodo.com/the-truth-about-the-bermuda-triangle-1507231040) Kusche’s research was top notch, and among other things he found: 1. Many wrecks claimed by BT promoting authors often were’t in the Bermuda Triangle when the went missing. 2. They at times outright invented incidents, or reported them without doing research (several of the ships never even existed or never disappeared). 3. Kusche once described one BT author as ‘If he told me the color of the boat was red I’d have to triple check that’. Along with a lot of other woowoo silliness in the 70’s, the Bermuda Triangle was a big thing. It eventually faded because a lot of the facts didn’t hold together (Kuche’s book helped, along with a NOVA special debunking a lot of the nonsense). Plus a lot of folks just got tired of it: You have to realize that just about ever 70’s action or mystery program had a ‘Bermuda Triangle’ episode. This would repeat in the 90’s with Area 51 nonsense. Still, there was never anything to it. A hint: When you’re stuff is being debunked on ‘Beckman’s World’ it is time to to hang it up. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/24 "2015-10-04T01:01:20Z")
I guess I wasn’t clear in the OP. I mentioned the Bermuda Triangle was considered by many to be a myth. I should have been clear that I consider it a myth too. This ship might get added to the list if wreckage isn’t found. Someone will probably write a new Bermuda Triangle book. The myth will live on. It will probably be retold long after we are all gone. Another lost ship added to the Triangle list doesn’t make it true. Sure, its opportunistic to use a tragedy like this. Hollywood makes movies about tragedies all the time. This is no different. No one wants to see a ship lost at sea. No one wants to see any real life tragedy. But somebody will write a screenplay when it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/25 "2015-10-04T01:24:28Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I guess I wasn’t clear in the OP. I mentioned the Bermuda Triangle was considered by many to be a myth. I should have been clear that I consider it a myth too. The way it was worded sounded like you were saying the opposite: > [@aceplace57](#): > > Many claim the Triangle is a myth but can’t explain why theres no wreckage. That seabed has been searched many times and the missing ships and planes never found. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/26 "2015-10-04T01:32:13Z")
Sorry for any confusion. I forget sometimes many here weren’t around for the 70’s. Mr. Miskatonic is one that like me remembers all the Bermuda Triangle references. A big part of popular culture. Few took it seriously. Its Bigfoot and Area 51. total bullshit. But the myth itself like any urban myth has a life of its own. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/27 "2015-10-04T03:03:46Z")
> [@casdave](#): > > A ship goes missing, probably sunk in a hurricane, and the mystery is??? > > Oh I forgot, no ship ever went missing in a hurricane anywhere in the world before. > > Good God, I mean, sometimes these doofuses really need to generate a teeny tiny little bit of critical thought There is no mystery, this _phenomenon_ is the result of people with low ethical standards realizing that they could make money out of peddling nonsense to uncritical audiences. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/28 "2015-10-04T03:48:04Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Sorry for any confusion. I forget sometimes many here weren’t around for the 70’s. Mr. Miskatonic is one that like me remembers all the Bermuda Triangle references. A big part of popular culture. Few took it seriously. Its Bigfoot and Area 51. total bullshit. > > But the myth itself like any urban myth has a life of its own. I was around for them, and I remember all the Bermuda Triangle hoopla. I was a credulous preteen boy and was fascinated with ghosts, UFOs, psychics and all that nonsense. There were books and TV shows about the BT, and UFOs (remember _Project Blue Book_?), and Uri Geller until he was debunked on Johnny Carson. Great stories that were a lot of fun, until I learned about Occam’s Razor. But in your OP you sounded like a True Believer. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/29 "2015-10-04T05:24:30Z")
It’s odd that all the hype about the Bermuda triangle went away about the same time as hype over the Loch Ness monster and Bigfoot. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/30 "2015-10-04T05:45:01Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I don’t know if the Bermuda Triangle is true or not. Spoiler alert! It’s not. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/31 "2015-10-04T14:05:35Z")
[QUOTE=aceplace57] I don’t know if the Bermuda Triangle is true or not. [/quote] > [@aceplace57](#): > > Its Bigfoot and Area 51. total bullshit. Wow, another conversion! The next time a doubter remarks on how the Great Minds of the Dope never convince anyone to abandon woo, just point them to this thread! The El Faro will eventually be discovered anchored off the same island where that missing Malaysian plane was diverted, wait and see. ---
**Author:** ![IDtenT\_Error](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@IDtenT\_Error](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IDtenT_Error)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/32 "2015-10-04T14:08:41Z")
I was interested in the Bermuda Triangle as a kid at the same time you were. You mention reading lots of books. Did you read this one: _The Bermuda Triangle Mystery Solved_ (1975). Lawrence David Kusche (ISBN 0-87975-971-2) Reading that one is when I utterly lost interest. You should have, too. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/33 "2015-10-04T14:09:45Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > It’s been awhile since a plane or ship vanished in the Bermuda Triangle. Looks like the old girl woke up hungry. The thing is, for a true Bermuda Triangle incident, there won’t be any wreckage. Its happened quite a few times. Many claim the Triangle is a myth but can’t explain why theres no wreckage. That seabed has been searched many times and the missing ships and planes never found. Bullshit. Such complete and utter nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/34 "2015-10-04T14:44:03Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > There’s a difference in a cultural event like the Bermuda Triangle and the actual tragedies that occur at sea. Bermuda Triangle mania was a huge cultural thing in the 80’s like big hair bands and Bigfoot. It spawned a lot of books and tv. It was a fun and harmless diversion while it lasted. Promoting a bogus hypothesis by deliberately mistating facts to credulous and impressionable people is not a “fun and harmless diversion”; it is fraud that feeds conspiranoia and convinces impressionable children and gullible adults that “sciece can’t explain everything.” In a nation in which one of the major candidates for the office of chief executive and head of state literally believes the Earth was created six thousand years ago, where 37% of polled voters think that global climate change is untrue, 1 out of 5 belive that childhood vaccination causes autism, and more than a quarter believe that Saddam Hussain was responsible for the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon (and more than half still believe that Iraq was attempting to produce nuclear weapons despite the results coming out of the Plame affair and the subsequent lack of any evidence whatsoever), the last thing we need is to be spreading more utterly bogus misinformation about supposed “inexplicable happenings” that are actually the result of the natural hazards of marine travel and failure to prepare for reasonable contingencies. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/35 "2015-10-04T15:19:41Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I guess the Bermuda Triangle craze died with the 1980’s. oh well, it was fun while it lasted. We can always rely on you to make a story of something ridiculous that has been debunked decades ago. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/36 "2015-10-04T15:21:45Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Promoting a bogus hypothesis by deliberately mistating facts to credulous and impressionable people is not a “fun and harmless diversion”; it is fraud that feeds conspiranoia and convinces impressionable children and gullible adults that “sciece can’t explain everything.” In a nation in which one of the major candidates for the office of chief executive and head of state literally believes the Earth was created six thousand years ago, where 37% of polled voters think that global climate change is untrue, 1 out of 5 belive that childhood vaccination causes autism, and more than a quarter believe that Saddam Hussain was responsible for the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon (and more than half still believe that Iraq was attempting to produce nuclear weapons despite the results coming out of the Plame affair and the subsequent lack of any evidence whatsoever), the last thing we need is to be spreading more utterly bogus misinformation about supposed “inexplicable happenings” that are actually the result of the natural hazards of marine travel and failure to prepare for reasonable contingencies. > > Stranger All that can be described in two words, epistemic vandalism; while science and reason try to illuminate our path, those things not just stand on the way, they piss on the flame too. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/37 "2015-10-04T15:26:35Z")
[The Master speaks:](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/662/has-anyone-vanished-in-the-bermuda-triangle-lately) ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/38 "2015-10-04T15:36:22Z")
Bermuda Triangle, makes people disappear… ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/39 "2015-10-04T15:47:11Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > It’s odd that all the hype about the Bermuda triangle went away about the same time as hype over the Loch Ness monster and Bigfoot. I suspect it may have had something to do with how the Baby Boomer generation was aging and started to have other things to worry about. Kusche and NOVA kinda swatted the myth and people got sick of seeing it on Wonder Woman and Hardy Boys. Bigfoot faded because it got put into the same category as Elvis sightings. Nobody ever specifcally swatted the Bigfoot myths like the Bermuda Triangle, but then again Bigfoot myth wasn;t hampering tourism. People also got sick of it because seeing him fight the Six Million Dollar man is kind shark-jumpy. Loch Ness was swatted because the people searching for it started to get diminishing returns. There was an expose of the various underwater photos in the Sketical Inquirer but that was much later. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402/40 "2015-10-04T18:52:51Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > You do realize at lease six books were written about the Bermuda Triangle? _Six_? WOW. That’s amazing!!! That’s like, almost as many as in the _Harry Potter_ series. :dubious: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle-may-have-claimed-another-victim/733402.md?page=3)