# Bermuda Triangle **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 3, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661 "2012-02-03T17:27:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![betterlifethroughchemistry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/betterlifethroughchemistry/32/3094_2.png) [@betterlifethroughchemistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betterlifethroughchemistry)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/41 "2018-08-12T22:44:30Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Updating this thread: > > [Scientists Claim to Have Solved the Mystery of the Bermuda Triangle](https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/zmkyp8/scientists-claim-to-have-solved-the-mystery-of-the-bermuda-triangle) Whoops, **Past Tense** already answered…nm… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/42 "2018-08-12T22:53:21Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > That’s because nobody cares about the missing tortoises. [Someone did, because they were _ **so** _ edible.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPggB4MfPnk) (QI - How The Giant Tortoise Got Its Name) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/43 "2018-08-13T03:41:14Z")
Geez, this was even debunked on Beekman’s World. That’s gotta be a low point for any alleged ‘mysterious phenomenon’. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/44 "2018-08-13T09:14:39Z")
The difficulty in proving the triangle is that it’s not (quite) a triangle. The effect is really more a result of a triforce shaped effect. In the hole, there is negative chi (or qi). But the hole is surrounded on three sides by very positive chi. As you might note, the total area of positive energy is three times that of the negative, so statistically almost all flights through the area are going to have a net bonus to their life energy. And even in cases where the total net is negative, it’s still a minor negative - equivalent to something like being a smoker. You have to come in and leave at a corner, really, to ensure a complete fatality. But, of course, those points of entry are asymptotically small, while even the human body is of indefinitely greater size, and you have to perfectly pass through two, so…hence the difficulty of proof. I was flying through once and tried to explain this to someone, and I think I hit the corners perfectly because I remember just as I was about to pull the whole thing together, I lost the point. So sad. ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/45 "2018-08-13T13:49:18Z")
> [@betterlifethroughchemistry](#): > > [Here’s a good article](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6906519/bermuda-triangle-rogue-waves-university-of-southampton/) > > Essentially, they believe that, when three far away storm systems (from the south, the north and the east) push up waves from each direction, they can converge and form large rogue waves. The study showed that such waves could overwhelm any vessel and sink it quickly with little warning or time to react. Since they are unpredictable, the weather could be clear and it would “seem” paranormal forces are at work when it’s just the pesky laws of physics… The most mysterious event in the area seems to have been a plane crash. Now THAT’S some rogue wave! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/46 "2018-08-13T14:13:11Z")
> [@DavidwithanR](#): > > And, after that, REbunkers. 🙂 Yeah, I don’t like to celebrate the frauds who started this but they have spawned an industry that includes the fight against the ignorance they promoted. In some way the world is better off when bullshit is dumped in the light of day. It is unrealistic to expect there we will never smell any crap so we benefit from having our own implements ready to shovel it right back to the source. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/47 "2018-08-13T15:12:50Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > As it is it’s the Bermuda Heart. Well, the krakens come up, the ships go down… Deep in the heart of Bermuda. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/48 "2018-08-13T15:21:04Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **DrDeth** : > > I think that the areas is normal for sinkings, etc, not 'mysterious disappearances". Most of whom, admittedly, have been made to seem more mysterious. _All_ plane crashes and ship sinkings are mysterious. Planes and ships aren’t supposed to do that, and the vast majority of the time, they don’t. Every single time one does, it was because of something that wasn’t expected to happen. Now, usually, folks can still figure out after the fact what happened. But not always, and that’s hardly a surprise, either. That can especially happen when no debris is recovered, which can quite easily happen when a crash is in the middle of the ocean ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/49 "2018-08-13T18:30:20Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > _All_ plane crashes and ship sinkings are mysterious. Planes and ships aren’t supposed to do that, and the vast majority of the time, they don’t. Every single time one does, it was because of something that wasn’t expected to happen. Ummm, no, this is not true. Unexpected doesn’t equal mysterious. If the cause is clear then there’s no mystery involved at all. And in fact planes and ships ARE expected to crash and sink, just not frequently. Not that it’s a goal, but everyone knows that the chance exists. ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/50 "2018-08-13T18:36:35Z")
(If a shipbuilder said “Safety is our #1 priority”, you’d know right away that they were lying - because the safest thing would be to not build ships in the first place.) ---
**Author:** ![Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reindeer_flotilla/32/3024_2.png) [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reindeer_Flotilla)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/51 "2018-08-13T20:09:52Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Geez, this was even debunked on Beekman’s World. That’s gotta be a low point for any alleged ‘mysterious phenomenon’. I don’t know, Beakman’s World was frickin’ awesome. I also admire Bill Nye, but remember Bill Nye the Science Guy was launched a year after Beakman’s World on a rival network to compete with its success. Paul Zaloom still does performances as Beakman around the globe to this day. I get your point that if children are being taught that some phenomenon is really just a bunch of hooey, then it’s assumed that adults should already be clued in. Yes, I typed that with a straight face - why do you ask? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/52 "2018-08-13T20:30:11Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Rather than just link to a Youtube, it is polite to tell us what it is, and what you think of it, and maybe a summary. Elvis needs Boats, man. ---
**Author:** ![Lorne\_Armstrong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@Lorne\_Armstrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lorne_Armstrong)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/53 "2018-08-21T07:46:28Z")
Elvis needs boats. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/54 "2018-08-21T12:02:42Z")
> [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](#): > > I don’t know, Beakman’s World was frickin’ awesome. I also admire Bill Nye, but remember Bill Nye the Science Guy was launched a year after Beakman’s World on a rival network to compete with its success. Paul Zaloom still does performances as Beakman around the globe to this day. Yup. My favorite (and frankly only one I have seen) is his duo with Captain Disillusion on YouTube debunking magnetic Free Energy motors: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/sT_bTnkwLuE/maxresdefault.jpg "BEAKMALLUSION: Free Energy Devices") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT_bTnkwLuE) ---
**Author:** ![Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reindeer_flotilla/32/3024_2.png) [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reindeer_Flotilla)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661/55 "2018-08-29T23:13:19Z")
> [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](#): > > I don’t know, Beakman’s World was frickin’ awesome. I also admire Bill Nye, but remember Bill Nye the Science Guy was launched a year after Beakman’s World on a rival network to compete with its success. Paul Zaloom still does performances as Beakman around the globe to this day. > [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Yup. My favorite (and frankly only one I have seen) is his duo with Captain Disillusion on YouTube debunking magnetic Free Energy motors: > > [https://youtu.be/sT\_bTnkwLuE](https://youtu.be/sT_bTnkwLuE) Thanks so much for sharing that. It was awesome and a great tribute the look and feel of the old show. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bermuda-triangle/611661.md?page=2)