I agree that these are facts that probably make Sanders look a little hypocritical, but as someone who never supported Bernie or any of his bros, I don’t really have a major problem with it. I fully expect people to pay less in taxes where the opportunity exists. I fully expect a person to invest in property as a way to improve their financial security. If paying someone $13 is what he thinks he can afford, that’s fine. He’s running a campaign. These ideas of his aren’t reality yet and he’s not under an obligation to behave in ways that make him some sort of ideological puritan.
Where I do have a problem is when he tried to make Hillary Clinton appear to be somehow unethical for using resources at her disposal that were completely legal. She played her game, just like Bernie played his. He really shouldn’t have claimed that Hillary is a somehow a corporate candidate who sold herself to the devil when it’s clear that someone could look at his and his wife’s behavior and conclude that they are not exactly flag bearers of the working class. In other words, don’t be a sore loser…which we now know he kinda, sorta was.
He does not eliminate the mortgage tax deduction from his proposed tax plan. You are wrong. He proposed a cap of $300,000.
I think taxes on the weathly should be increased. Am I obligated not to take legitimate deductions?
I’m now unsure if you know the meaning of hypocrisy. I think it’s been covered in this thread that he has one raise debt in Vermont, one in DC, and he has a vacation home. Having three homes doesn’t make someone rich: his net worth is apparently among the lowest in Congress.
Cite for where Sanders urged people to give some amount to charity?
I looked up this claim. He pays INTERNS $12. As you know, interns are very often unpaid because they are NOT employees, as determined by the Supreme Court. So, he pays student interns $12 more than he’s allowed to. If he paid actual employees less than $15, I’d agree that this would be embarrassing. But I think paying interns in Washington is pretty exceptional, so I think he’s actually being a role model. I guess you were misinformed about him paying campaign workers less than $15!
And** Giraffes Can’t Dance** regarding your demands for purity before you consider any change. I think even a notable conservative like Bricker will tell you that until the law changes points like the one you are spinning like a dervish are mostly a nothing burger. It would be like demanding a conservative to not use a new law to his/her advantage after he or she opposed the new law.
Or to put it close to an issue I know it would be like demanding a member of parliament in the England of old to make his own sewage line before voting to create one of the first modern era sewage systems in Europe. Thing is there were some that also launched that accusation and it was silly then because the real hypocrisy would had come if the member of parliament had not paid the taxes than then all had to pay so then things like cholera would become a thing of the past.
So it is with an issue of paying $15 dollars an hour, until the law changes this gotcha is weak sauce.
But, there is something else:
The ones that told you about Sanders paying his employees less than $15 an hour lied to you. Unless the new minimum wage laws are talking about interns, and they are not, an intern is not a regular employee.
*This BTW is key to me, like Ravenman said, Sanders is actuallly a role model on what to do with interns. The fact that the ones that told you that meme forgot to tell you this demonstrates how unreliable your sources of info are, time to remove a few bookmarks from your browser or defriend some “friends” that do not mind to see you burn in a discussion.
Bricker explains that playing by the rules is not hypocrisy.
Hypocrisy is being judgmental about the actions of others, while giving yourself a free pass. There’s nothing hypocritical about advocating laws that are against your economic interest. The applicable word for such behavior is “Commendable”.
You Sanders supporters express the logic equaled only by a pile of dildos. Your hypocrisy is just as stark as your leader’s. Your ignorance is exhausting.
Oh boy, lets talk about logic, do you know the difference between an intern and an employee? Do you know what test the interns under Sanders are failing so as to not be considered interns and therefore subjects to the minimum wage laws?
Can you ever notice when a source you used pulled your leg?
Giraffes Can’t Dance, what candidate do you support? We really want to know who this ethically pure candidate is that by comparison you can call Bernie Sanders a hypocrite.
Anyone who has a problem with Sanders being able to afford a moderately priced holiday home is the sort of drooling cretin that thinks that european style democratic socialism is equivalent to Mao style collectivist communism.
Or that people in Australia aren’t “free” because you can’t own a gun and we have universal healthcare. In short their opinion can be dismissed entirely.
He might not be rich compared to most members of Congress, but I think that his net worth and owning three homes makes him rich compared to America, and definitely compared to most of his supporters. But that’s not to criticize Sanders, it just shows how much richer Congress is than the average American. I agree with others that it’s commendable that advocates against income inequality when it doesn’t directly affect him and could negatively affect his net worth, but I’m also not terribly surprised that some of his supporters who might have sacrificed to donate just $27 to him are somewhat disillusioned by the news of him buying a $600,000 vacation home.
If people wanted to pay you money to hear you speak, your house would be worth more than $600K.
Hell, I was a pretty good programmer/engineer in Silicon Valley, and my house is worth way more than $600K. Deal with it.
If he used their donations to buy the home, they’d have every right to be upset. I’m sure he didn’t.
One problem with the US, perhaps part of the anti-government slant, is that people who think CEOs getting a million bucks for destroying stockholder value think there is something wrong with high level government officials, with tons of responsibility, making more than they do. If Senators tend rich it is because our crazy electoral system almost demands it. $200K a year is chickenfeed given their responsibilities.
One of my good friends was treasurer of an entire major state. His lifestyle was the same as mine - very middle class. When he got lucky and his party lost, he got a job with much less stress that paid a lot more. And if he’d been a CFO of a company with a balance sheet as big as the state, he’d be in a mansion not a nice suburban house on a nice suburban street.