# Bernie Sanders Fans Plan DNC "Fart-In" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 27, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-sanders-fans-plan-dnc-fart-in/761063 "2016-07-27T22:18:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-sanders-fans-plan-dnc-fart-in/761063/41 "2016-07-30T13:24:47Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > They \*could \* say, “we need you to beat Trump, so here is a political concession added to the party plank that you’ll really like,” but that would be consensus-based democracy, something to which they appear to be temperamentally opposed. What part of “Hillary won and Bernie lost” … ? ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-sanders-fans-plan-dnc-fart-in/761063/42 "2016-07-30T16:24:42Z")
> [@Balance](#): > > Except they’ve already done that. They added a number of Sanders-backed planks to the platform–an unprecedented number, I believe–including a minimum-wage hike, public option for healthcare, a path to legalization of marijuana, free higher education, new regulations and reduced or eliminated subsidies and breaks for fossil fuel industries, and other things. > > Did they get everything on their wish list? No. They probably wouldn’t have gotten the whole list even if they’d won. But the party has certainly made concessions in the interest of unity. Hillary would be against those planks if Bernie didn’t make her swallow them? ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-sanders-fans-plan-dnc-fart-in/761063/43 "2016-07-30T16:26:28Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > What part of “Hillary won and Bernie lost” … ? What part of “we will ge President Trump if you Bernie supporters don’t vote for Hillary…?” ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-sanders-fans-plan-dnc-fart-in/761063/44 "2016-07-30T18:37:04Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > Hillary would be against those planks if Bernie didn’t make her swallow them? Their factions argued over them, so I presume she at least was not supporting some of them in the form he originally sought. Whether that’s because she wanted a different approach on these issues, or felt that including them was premature or handed political opponents ammunition to use against Democrats, I don’t know. I would imagine that she personally favors most of these ideas, but they were generally not things she was pushing in her campaign, while Sanders was. The truth is, there’s really not that much gap between Hillary and Bernie’s positions on most things, so you have to look at the details to see why one or the other would or would not favor a particular plank. The differences are more in implementation goals than concept–Bernie wants big changes, fast, while Hillary looks for incremental progress. There are some actual ideological gaps, but they’re not necessarily things that could be put into a pithy plank. The point is that some planks were added because Sanders wanted them. Not everything that a candidate–even the winning candidate–wants goes into the platform. These planks were added because Sanders was advocating for them, and the platform committee made concessions to his faction. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-sanders-fans-plan-dnc-fart-in/761063/45 "2016-07-30T18:48:25Z")
If anyone here thinks that the Dem Party platform creation was a sordid and ugly affair, you _really_ don’t want to look at the other one. Trust me on this, don’t! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-sanders-fans-plan-dnc-fart-in/761063/46 "2016-07-30T19:16:54Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > What part of “we will ge President Trump if you Bernie supporters don’t vote for Hillary…?” Sarah Silverman answered that one already. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-sanders-fans-plan-dnc-fart-in/761063/47 "2016-07-30T19:29:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If anyone here thinks that the Dem Party platform creation was a sordid and ugly affair, you _really_ don’t want to look at the other one. Trust me on this, don’t! From _Ballots and Bandits_: [Quote=Keith Laumer] “But remember,” Retief cautioned, “You’ll be expected to stand on your Party Platform–at least for the first few weeks.” “W-weeks?” Hoobrik faltered. “What is this platform, Retief?” “It’s a pretty shaky structure,” Retief confided. “I’ve never known one to last past the first Legislative Rebuff.” [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-sanders-fans-plan-dnc-fart-in/761063/48 "2016-07-30T19:38:29Z")
So - _was_ there one big smell-in? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-sanders-fans-plan-dnc-fart-in/761063/49 "2016-07-30T21:30:25Z")
There was not, there was never going to be, the entire premise is ridiculous. A “fart in” protest? C’mon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-sanders-fans-plan-dnc-fart-in/761063.md?page=2)