# Bernie Withdraws **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 8, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349 "2020-04-08T15:27:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/21 "2020-04-08T16:14:57Z")
This is the first time I can vote Green and will consider that. And spare me “you are only helping Trump” by voting green. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/22 "2020-04-08T16:16:03Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Somehow, this made her “unelectable”. That’s not what made her “unelectable.” ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/23 "2020-04-08T16:19:12Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > This is the first time I can vote Green and will consider that. And spare me “you are only helping Trump” by voting green. Do you live in a swing state? If so, you are. Grow up. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/24 "2020-04-08T16:19:14Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > [Regression toward the mean](https://fs.blog/2015/07/regression-to-the-mean/) > > That this is what we’ve come to says a lot more about the culture of the country as a whole and the divisions within it than it does about the relative competencies of the candidates. Elizabeth Warren was smart, articulate, educated, experienced, personable, and met questions and challenges to how she’d govern with detailed plans and policy statements. Somehow, this made her “unelectable”. Go figure. > > Stranger Without going to the link, at first glance I thought it said regression toward the **men**. Irony, there. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/25 "2020-04-08T16:19:16Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > This is the first time I can vote Green and will consider that. And spare me “you are only helping Trump” by voting green. It is your vote to waste if you wish, but if you live in a competitive state I urge you to reconsider and vote for Joe. The choice is between fascism and freedom. Voting for a candidate you may not be in love with vs one who wants to destroy the nation- that’s the simple choice. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/26 "2020-04-08T16:24:32Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > The only other thing that matters is winning back the Senate. . Not entirely. Democrats need to win state governorships and state legislatures so they can block state gerrymandering attempts in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/27 "2020-04-08T16:27:29Z")
Is anyone surprised I’m ecstatic and gloating? Both Corbyn and Bernie gone in the same week, two of the most vile shitstains in politics since 2015 are finally gone. Message delivered: we don’t want your fucking revolution!!! ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/28 "2020-04-08T16:27:31Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > It is your vote to waste if you wish, but if you live in a competitive state I urge you to reconsider and vote for Joe. The choice is between fascism and freedom. Voting for a candidate you may not be in love with vs one who wants to destroy the nation- that’s the simple choice. No kidding. Voters need to accept that those who think like **Bijou Drains** ’ post #21 above would essentially, probability-wise, be a vote for the likely, projected winner, who I believe today is Trump. Instead, I usually approach most elections with the mindset of, “Given the information available, who is most likely to win, and do I want that person to win, or would I rather have the 2nd- or 3rd- most likely person to win?” And then I vote accordingly. As is usual, there are exceptions to most rules. There are only a very few rules without exception. One such rule is, people eventually die. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/29 "2020-04-08T16:28:41Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > May I be the first to say, “Trump and Biden, how did we end up with those two?” See, there’s this thing called voting. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/30 "2020-04-08T16:29:31Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Is anyone surprised I’m ecstatic and gloating? Both Corbyn and Bernie gone in the same week, two of the most vile shitstains in politics since 2015 are finally gone. > > Message delivered: we don’t want your fucking revolution!!! Corbyn? Jeremy Corbyn, British Parliament. Had to look it up. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/31 "2020-04-08T16:30:38Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > 330 million people and we get a very mentally ill guy vs.\*\* a career politician who has not really done anything worthwhile despite being in DC for over 40 years\*\*. (Emphasis Mine) You shouldn’t talk about Bernie Sanders that way after he dropped out of the race. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/32 "2020-04-08T16:31:56Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Sanders supporters. I know Biden isn’t your first, or even second choice. Wasn’t mine either. Nevertheless. Please, please, please, drop the animosity and get behind Biden. I sincerely encourage you to direct similar requests to Bidens’ supporters, asking them to be magnanimous and understanding in victory. The nonstop contempt that SOME Biden supporters show toward leftists is not good for the party. (#notallcentrists). And the more that Biden supporters recognize that leftists are sincere and thoughtful (#notallleftists, got it), the easier it’ll be to, and the more leftists will, come in from the cold. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/33 "2020-04-08T16:33:08Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Now we find out if Bernie means it when he says he’ll support Biden. Will he support him by not tearing him down or will he support him actively out on the trail stirring up his group of voters. I think he will support him. Otherwise he may as well have stayed in the race. Now, whether all the Bernie Bros who hung on every word as if they were ordained by a loving God who sends birds to perch on his podiums actually listen to the most important thing he asks of them is anyone’s guess. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/34 "2020-04-08T16:33:45Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > 330 million people and we get a very mentally ill guy vs. **a career politician who has not really done anything worthwhile despite being in DC for over 40 years.** I don’t know. VAWA and the first and only federal assault weapons ban was a pretty big deal but I guess it’s not as important as naming post offices in thirty years in DC as Sanders did. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/35 "2020-04-08T16:34:07Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > And the market is already responding. SFBA news radio reports the Dow has jumped up 560 points. This strikes me as bizarre because Biden winning the nomination has been a foregone conclusion for at least the last month to anyone even vaguely paying attention. > [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > This is the first time I can vote Green and will consider that. And spare me “you are only helping Trump” by voting green. Nah. You’re already aware that you’re helping Trump and just don’t give a shit. Either you care or you don’t; I’m not going to change your mind. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/36 "2020-04-08T16:34:39Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > I think he will support him. Otherwise he may as well have stayed in the race. > > Now, whether all the Bernie Bros who hung on every word as if they were ordained by a loving God who sends birds to perch on his podiums actually listen to the most important thing he asks of them is anyone’s guess. The more that Democrats say nonsense like this, the fewer leftists will want to join the Democrats. As someone who desperately wants leftists to support Biden, I urge you to get it out of your system, and then knock it the fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/37 "2020-04-08T16:34:42Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > This is the first time I can vote Green and will consider that. And spare me “you are only helping Trump” by voting green. Are you under the impression that by voting for the Green candidate you will somehow influence policy even if your candidate doesn’t win? Because if not, yes, you are wasting a vote in terms of making the biggest impact on public health and national security in getting rid of Trump. And if yes, remind me when the last time you heard the name “Jill Stein” in any public policy discussion or political news since 2017. > [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#): > > That’s not what made her “unelectable.” Having lady-bits and a professorial manner probably didn’t help among the demographic who are anxious about the size of both their genitals and their brains, but being squeezed by the far left for not being “Bernie”-enough and by the media and moderates for being a Commie-Pinko-Radical who is going to bankrupt the nation by suggesting that we should impose regulation and make the most extremely wealthy pay a reasonable share back into the economy that has made them such a profit was apparently too narrow of a band for appeal to Democratic voters. She got a brief heyday when her poll numbers suddenly jumped up, and immediately the media went on a collective “What’s so great about Liz?” rant with a side of “She’s just Hillary Redux, and see how well that worked out”, as if Clinton and Warren weren’t at pretty much opposite ends of the banking and exploitative business regulation spectrum. Warren seemed to be a lot of people’s second pick, but very few people’s first, and a big portion of that seemed to be the scare factor of “electability”, which is like not playing a game because there is a chance you might not win. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/38 "2020-04-08T16:34:52Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > This is the first time I can vote Green and will consider that. And spare me “you are only helping Trump” by voting green. Sorry, this is a message board about combating ignorance, not placating it. When fascism came to Washington in 2016, I did everything I could to stop it. I plan on doing everything I can to stop it in 2020 as well. If you don’t do everything you can to stop it, that helps it. Your wish to remain blissfully ignorant of this doesn’t change that. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/39 "2020-04-08T16:38:36Z")
Why does it matter what he tells the “Bernie Bros”? They won’t listen to him, any more than they’ve ever listened to him. They’ll do whatever their boss Putin tells them. But yes, of course he’ll tell his actual supporters to vote for the Democratic nominee, just like he did last time. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/40 "2020-04-08T16:39:37Z")
So much for not telling me I’m helping Trump. 🙂 BTW I was never for Sanders, I was for Yang. I guess there is no point in me reading anymore of this thread, have fun with it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349.md?page=3)