# Bernie Withdraws

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 8, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349 "2020-04-08T15:27:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/61 "2020-04-08T17:31:02Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I’m no Bernie bro but it is quite full of crap paraphrasing what you actually said into something less obnoxious and then pretending what you actually said is therefore less obnoxious.

I don’t think it was obnoxious. Lord knows, anyone who does stay away from Twitter, like, forever.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/62 "2020-04-08T17:38:43Z")

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Well, a heads up: it was obnoxious. Doesn’t matter that you are used to it.

But you know, toodles and all that.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/63 "2020-04-08T17:42:57Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> So much for not telling me I’m helping Trump. 🙂
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> BTW I was never for Sanders, I was for Yang.
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> I guess there is no point in me reading anymore of this thread, have fun with it.

You’re helping Trump. It’s your vote, and you’re absolutely allowed to do what you want with it. But, you’re using it to help Trump, so you don’t get to dictate how those of us who would rather Trump not win respond to that fact.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/64 "2020-04-08T17:49:52Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Is anyone surprised I’m ecstatic and gloating? Both Corbyn and Bernie gone in the same week, two of the most vile shitstains in politics since 2015 are finally gone.
> 
> Message delivered: we don’t want your fucking revolution!!!

Congratulations, you’ve won. I am a Bernie Bro, and I still intend to vote for Bernie in the Pennsylvania primary in June if he’s still on the ballot as a symbolic protest vote, but in November I will bend the knee toward Joe Biden. With gritted teeth, I will reluctantly vote for the neoliberal centrist who won’t change a goddamn thing, because he’s the lesser of two evils. Bask in your victory. You’ve earned it.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/65 "2020-04-08T17:56:46Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Is anyone surprised I’m ecstatic and gloating? Both Corbyn and Bernie gone in the same week, two of the most vile shitstains in politics since 2015 are finally gone.
> 
> Message delivered: we don’t want your fucking revolution!!!

Yeah, get rid of Trump, but otherwise, keep things pretty much as they are. We don’t need any serious change in this country, amirite? :rolleyes:

No wonder you were such a Buttigieg fanboy: a nice smiling face on the Plutocracy Protection Plan.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/66 "2020-04-08T17:59:23Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Congratulations, you’ve won. I am a Bernie Bro, and I still intend to vote for Bernie in the Pennsylvania primary in June if he’s still on the ballot as a symbolic protest vote, but in November I will bend the knee toward Joe Biden. With gritted teeth, I will reluctantly vote for the neoliberal centrist who won’t change a goddamn thing, because he’s the lesser of two evils. Bask in your victory. You’ve earned it.

Thank you for your rational and adult approach to the November election.

He will change one thing. Arguably _the_ most important thing. He’ll send Trump packing.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/67 "2020-04-08T17:59:31Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Congratulations, you’ve won. I am a Bernie Bro, and I still intend to vote for Bernie in the Pennsylvania primary in June if he’s still on the ballot as a symbolic protest vote, but in November I will bend the knee toward Joe Biden. With gritted teeth, I will reluctantly vote for the neoliberal centrist who won’t change a goddamn thing, because he’s the lesser of two evils. Bask in your victory. You’ve earned it.

The only things he’ll be able to change will be the same things that any other candidate, including your beloved Bernie, would be able to change. His first four years (and possibly the second term, if there is one) will be spent unraveling the shit show that Trump leaves behind, repairing all the damage that has been done to our country. Bernie would be unable to do any differently, and it’s naive to think so.

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/68 "2020-04-08T17:59:43Z")

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It won’t silence the twitter demons in his head.

_cue **dalej42** ’s 1000 yard stare interspersed with BernieBro tweets set to a discordant classical violin crescendo_

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/69 "2020-04-08T17:59:54Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Yeah, get rid of Trump, but otherwise, keep things pretty much as they are. We don’t need any serious change in this country, amirite? :rolleyes:
> 
> No wonder you were such a Buttigieg fanboy: a nice smiling face on the Plutocracy Protection Plan.

Let’s get back to normal and then figure out how much serious change might be needed (and possible)

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/70 "2020-04-08T18:07:06Z")

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I’m glad Sanders quit, because maybe we’re on the downhill slope of almost every thread on Dem politics on the SDMB being co-opted and derailed by rabid Bernie-haters.

We’ll now be free from non-stop anti-Bernie shit. Thank. Fucking. God.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/71 "2020-04-08T18:10:52Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> The only things he’ll be able to change will be the same things that any other candidate, including your beloved Bernie, would be able to change. His first four years (and possibly the second term, if there is one) will be spent unraveling the shit show that Trump leaves behind, repairing all the damage that has been done to our country. Bernie would be unable to do any differently, and it’s naive to think so.

Exactly so. Why does anyone think that (in the next 4 years anyway) any Democratic candidate is going to get much more done than restore the federal government to a working system? So much time is going to be taking up with basically rebuilding federal agencies from the ground up.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/72 "2020-04-08T18:15:11Z")

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Restoring the federal government to a working system would require huge changes. I’m sure that Biden would stop things from getting any worse, but we need more than that. We need to fix the damage that’s already done.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/73 "2020-04-08T18:20:49Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> I’m glad Sanders quit, because maybe we’re on the downhill slope of almost every thread on Dem politics on the SDMB being co-opted and derailed by rabid Bernie-haters.
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> We’ll now be free from non-stop anti-Bernie shit. Thank. Fucking. God.

Think you have some serious confirmation bias going. There’s 2-3 dopers that have a hate on for Sanders but they don’t remotely hijack almost every thread.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/74 "2020-04-08T18:25:15Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Restoring the federal government to a working system would require huge changes. I’m sure that Biden would stop things from getting any worse, but we need more than that. We need to fix the damage that’s already done.

Any nominee is going to have fill vacant positions that have sat there for years, hindering the mission of tons of federal agencies (the EPA is almost nonfunctional at this point). This sort of thing isn’t flashy or even require ‘huge changes’ - it requires meticulous attention to detail. It’s something a Warren or Biden would be very good at. It’s not about stopping things from getting worse but to even get it back to an Obama level of functionality is going to require 3-4 years of work itself.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/75 "2020-04-08T18:41:14Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> The only things he’ll be able to change will be the same things that any other candidate, including your beloved Bernie, would be able to change. His first four years (and possibly the second term, if there is one) will be spent unraveling the shit show that Trump leaves behind, repairing all the damage that has been done to our country. Bernie would be unable to do any differently, and it’s naive to think so.

One of the most painful things I’ve heard from Biden from a left perspective is that he would veto a Medicare-for-all bill _even if Congress passed it, and it arrived at his desk._☹

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/76 "2020-04-08T18:48:14Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Not entirely. Democrats need to win state governorships and state legislatures so they can block state gerrymandering attempts in 2020.

Good point. People need to vote for Democratic for every office in every race in every community. No exceptions. no compromise.

Yes, that includes you Bijou Drains.

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/77 "2020-04-08T18:59:04Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Think you have some serious confirmation bias going. There’s 2-3 dopers that have a hate on for Sanders but they don’t remotely hijack almost every thread.

I guess I have the confirmation bias going on too. Since 4 or 5 days after super Tuesday, I’ve been reading the Elections forum less and less. The constant gloating and having my nose rubbed over and over in the fact that Bernie lost by the Bernie haters just stopped being fun for me.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/78 "2020-04-08T19:04:41Z")

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Well, I don’t have a serious dog in the fight but the griping after Super Tuesday wasn’t entirely from hardcore Bernie haters. He should have fucking closed the campaign right then. It was hopeless and we’re in the middle of a pandemic. What did holding out until today do?

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/79 "2020-04-08T19:06:40Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Is anyone surprised I’m ecstatic and gloating? Both Corbyn and Bernie gone in the same week, two of the most vile shitstains in politics since 2015 are finally gone.
> 
> Message delivered: we don’t want your fucking revolution!!!

I’m starting to think you’re a Trump supporter because your posts seemed to be designed to do only one thing. Get anyone who supported Bernie to not vote, vote 3rd party, or even vote for Trump.

Unfortunately for you it’s not going to work on me, because I still hate Trump more and will be voting for Joe.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bernie-withdraws/851349/80 "2020-04-08T19:13:09Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Thats because Bernie would’ve fought income inequality, now they’re celebrating that plutocracy will not be challenged. Thats not a good thing.  
> …

Note that even if Bernie won, the President cant change the system unilaterally.

Many of Bernie’s idealistic ideas would never pass Congress.  
A “wealth tax” would have no chance of being passed.

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