# Bert and Ernie still not gay

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 18, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bert-and-ernie-still-not-gay/821556 "2018-09-18T22:19:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bert-and-ernie-still-not-gay/821556/41 "2018-09-22T13:29:44Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> The puppet characters of Sesame Street are children- or something very like children.

There are supporting characters who are definitely not portrayed as children. Elmo, for example, has a mother and a father, and a set of grandparents. [These are not children.](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/c/c7/ElmosGrandparents.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130909001433)

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**Author:** ![ricksummon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ricksummon/32/3333_2.png) [@ricksummon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricksummon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bert-and-ernie-still-not-gay/821556/42 "2018-09-22T14:48:46Z")

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Does this mean Bert and Ernie are doing a cover of the equal rights song from _Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping?_🙂

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAAMQLb4ZE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAAMQLb4ZE)

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bert-and-ernie-still-not-gay/821556/43 "2018-09-24T23:19:27Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Well, if you check out Frank Oz’s [Twitter account](https://twitter.com/thefrankozjam?lang=en), the poor guy’s getting slammed as a homophobe, even though he’s trying his best to be polite and diplomatic.

The thing is, Bert and Ernie are based on Jim Henson and Frank Oz’s real-life relationship. So of course Frank Oz doesn’t think they’re a gay couple, because he was Henson’s collaborator, not his forbidden lover.

Anyway, just because you’re the creator of a fiction that doesn’t mean you’re the best person to understand your own fiction. Sometimes stuff that the creator can’t acknowledge consciously comes bubbling out in sublimated form. But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bert-and-ernie-still-not-gay/821556/44 "2018-09-25T13:02:47Z")

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_Sesame Street_ has shown many [families](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmKu4VJ3XM) of Muppets over the years. Parents, kids, etc. How did these kids get produced\* in that world then?

Bert and Ernie could be a family as well. (But clearly they are just roommates.)

Again, a blanket denial on Muppets’ sexual orientation on \*SS \*just doesn’t work.

- Well, not counting someone with scissors, cloth, needle and thread.

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**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bert-and-ernie-still-not-gay/821556/45 "2018-09-25T15:18:44Z")

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If you don’t want to hear that Bert and Ernie aren’t gay, then stop asking.

Imo it’s really weird that people want to know sexual orientation of puppets on a show for literal babies.

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