# Best All-Time Military Movies -- OVERFLOW Voting

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 11, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225 "2015-06-11T00:42:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/21 "2015-06-12T20:29:50Z")

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I’ll go with “None of the above”  
[The Lighthorsemen](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093416/)

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/22 "2015-06-12T20:52:26Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
>
> I’ve had similar thoughts and concerns.

With 13 polls we actually include more in the top 100 than if we’d just done the top 5 in each. It’s just shy of 4 from each poll on average that continues on into the second round (but with the ability to be number 6 0r 7 in a subpoll that’s strong.) I really do think this way does better at rank ordering the very best with less seeding effect. There’s always issues at the margin. This way 51-100 still get an honorable mention by making that Top 100. That gets a mention for some that would otherwise have been excluded from moving on.

I have thought about using a odd/even position in the top 50 for the two second round polls. It effectively balances the field between the two polls.

Off to make 20 sock accounts to stuff the ballot box against Hurt Locker. 😃

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/23 "2015-06-12T21:00:52Z")

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Tank Girl made it, and Gettysburg didn’t?

Bad poll! Bad, bad! No biscuit!

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/24 "2015-06-12T22:00:03Z")

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I searched for “The Eagle Has Landed” but couldn’t find it anywhere on this list. It’s always been a personal favorite. Is it not eligible for your list?

Also, “Ride with the Devil”. Some may say it’s more a Western or the US Civil war doesn’t count. But it was pretty decent nonetheless.

And Schindler’s List?

And … OMG! The Guns of Navarone and The Bridge on the River Kwai?

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/25 "2015-06-12T22:10:24Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
>
> Tank Girl made it, and Gettysburg didn’t?
> 
> Bad poll! Bad, bad! No biscuit!

Yes! Indeed!

Tank Girl was a terrible film. Unless you are under ten years old. Little kiddies may enjoy some parts of it. But, I wold have renamed Tank Girl and called it Stank Girl.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/26 "2015-06-12T23:59:40Z")

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(Blush.) Actually, I kinda liked Tank Girl. It was a fun, dumb, action-adventure fantasy movie. It stayed pretty close to the comics.

It just wasn’t a war movie, and, even if you tried to argue it was, it wasn’t in any way a good war movie.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/27 "2015-06-13T00:58:24Z")

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Here’s a sorted update of the non-zero titles votes.

I’ll address the comments since my last update ( **since Post #19** ) shortly. Meanwhile please note the links to the other threads in this project given in the OP. This specific thread is just to cover the _Overflow_ of titles that came in after those other polls/threads were underway. If you have yet to vote in any of those other threads/polls, please do so. Odds are we’ll be on into next week before moving on to the next phase of the project.

I shall return! 🙂

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View Poll Results: Your favorite/best War Movies – OVERFLOW – Vote for up to TEN  
This poll will close on 07-10-2015 at 07:50 PM

```auto

Twelve O'Clock High 10 66.67% 
First Blood aka "Rambo" 5 33.33% 
Story of G.I. Joe 3 20.00% 
Hope and Glory 3 20.00% 
Rambo 3 20.00% 

Yankee Doodle Dandy 2 13.33% 
Soldier of Orange 2 13.33% 
Rambo: First Blood Part II 2 13.33% 
Rambo III 2 13.33% 
Ride with the Devil 2 13.33% 
Black Book "Zwartboek" 2 13.33% 
The Wind That Shakes the Barley 2 13.33% 
Waltz with Bashir 2 13.33% 

Napoleon 1 6.67% 
Waterloo Bridge 1 6.67% 
Action in the North Atlantic 1 6.67% 
Bombardier 1 6.67% 
God Is My Co-Pilot 1 6.67% 
The Steel Helmet 1 6.67% 
Men in War 1 6.67% 
Waterloo 1 6.67% 
The Odd Angry Shot 1 6.67% 
Testament 1 6.67% 
Utu 1 6.67% 
Au Revoir Les Enfants 1 6.67% 
An Ungentlemanly Act 1 6.67% 
Heaven & Earth 1 6.67% 
Underground 1 6.67% 

```

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 15

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/28 "2015-06-13T01:27:12Z")

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Here’s the IMDb link and the release date on those posts above (since **Post #19** ) which should help you find the threads where they appear.

Do keep in mind that some decades have two threads to cover all the titles during that period. You may need to check both parts of that decade.

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The Lighthorsemen – The Lighthorsemen [The Lighthorsemen (1987) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093416/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) (1987)

Gettysburg – Gettysburg [Gettysburg (1993) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107007/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) (1993)

The Eagle Has Landed – The Eagle Has Landed [The Eagle Has Landed (1976) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074452/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) (1976)

Ride with the Devil – Ride with the Devil (I) [Ride with the Devil (1999) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134154/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) (1999) **\<\<\< THIS POLL \>\>\>**

Schindler’s List – Schindler’s List [Schindler's List (1993) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108052/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) (1993)

The Guns of Navarone – The Guns of Navarone [The Guns of Navarone (1961) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054953/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) (1961)

The Bridge on the River Kwai? – The Bridge on the River Kwai [The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050212/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) (1957)

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/29 "2015-06-13T01:30:48Z")

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How did I miss “No Man’s Land” during nominations. :smack: I probably wouldn’t have voted for it in it’s time period and the overflow train has left the station. I doubt enough have seen it for it to get many votes. I’m not opposed to bringing it up just to be difficult. 😃

> [@MovieMogul](#):
>
> but hands down the best film on an impressive list (in fact, I’d argue the best film of the 90s period) is the remarkable **Underground**. If you’ve never seen it, by all means hunt it down.

Thanks for that recommendation. It’s one I hadn’t seen but it just made the list of “I should see that” that this effort has created.

> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
>
> I’ll go with “None of the above”  
> [The Lighthorsemen](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093416/)

That actually made the 80s poll. I nominated it. It’s only got two votes so far. Get to the Delorean and head to the 80s poll.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/30 "2015-06-13T02:21:59Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
>
> With 13 polls we actually include more in the top 100 than if we’d just done the top 5 in each. It’s just shy of 4 from each poll on average that continues on into the second round (but with the ability to be number 6 0r 7 in a subpoll that’s strong.) I really do think this way does better at rank ordering the very best with less seeding effect. There’s always issues at the margin. This way 51-100 still get an honorable mention by making that Top 100. That gets a mention for some that would otherwise have been excluded from moving on.
> 
> I have thought about using a odd/even position in the top 50 for the two second round polls. It effectively balances the field between the two polls.
> 
> Off to make 20 sock accounts to stuff the ballot box against Hurt Locker. 😃

If my calculator isn’t funning me, the Top Five from 13 polls only gets us to 65. To get 100 titles from 13 polls we need the TOP EIGHT from each (104).

I do like the idea of the odd-even approach for splitting the Big Stack into Two Polls needed to address comfortable voting of those 100. Good idea.

Once the voting in the individual polls has tapered off even more – (I just checked them and nothing has changed since I last sorted all of them into one stack based on the individual threads’ percentages of total) – I’ll do another all-in-one stack to see if that approach is as fair as the Top Eight per thread will be. We can decide at that time.

In my view, some periods have produced more Top 100 (or 120) War Movies than other periods. It would be artificial fairness if we punished some of the big ones for the sake of the little ones by grabbing the Top Eight from each poll regardless.

We can look at both methods and decide which makes a better approach. There may be an even better method we haven’t thought of yet. 🙂

Keep thinking! I really appreciate your input.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/31 "2015-06-13T14:16:20Z")

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We’ve added to the list (now 6) of titles that will be moving on to the Final Voting phase:

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View Poll Results: Your favorite/best War Movies – OVERFLOW – Vote for up to TEN  
This poll will close on 07-10-2015 at 07:50 PM

```auto

Twelve O'Clock High 11 64.71% 
First Blood aka "Rambo" 5 29.41% 
Yankee Doodle Dandy 3 17.65% 
Story of G.I. Joe 3 17.65% 
Hope and Glory 3 17.65% 
Rambo 3 17.65% 

Bombardier 2 11.76% 
Soldier of Orange 2 11.76% 
Rambo: First Blood Part II 2 11.76% 
Rambo III 2 11.76% 
Ride with the Devil 2 11.76% 
Black Book "Zwartboek" 2 11.76% 
The Wind That Shakes the Barley 2 11.76% 
Waltz with Bashir 2 11.76% 

Napoleon 1 5.88% 
Waterloo Bridge 1 5.88% 
Action in the North Atlantic 1 5.88% 
Air Force 1 5.88% 
God Is My Co-Pilot 1 5.88% 
The Steel Helmet 1 5.88% 
Men in War 1 5.88% 
Waterloo 1 5.88% 
The Odd Angry Shot 1 5.88% 
Testament 1 5.88% 
Utu 1 5.88% 
Au Revoir Les Enfants 1 5.88% 
An Ungentlemanly Act 1 5.88% 
Heaven & Earth 1 5.88% 
Underground 1 5.88% 
The Truman Show 1 5.88% 
Thirteen Days 1 5.88% 

```

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 17

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/32 "2015-06-14T13:05:34Z")

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New totals:

View Poll Results: Your favorite/best War Movies – OVERFLOW – Vote for up to TEN  
This poll will close on 07-10-2015 at 07:50 PM

```auto

Twelve O'Clock High 13 61.90% 
First Blood aka "Rambo" 5 23.81% 
Yankee Doodle Dandy 4 19.05% 
Story of G.I. Joe 3 14.29% 
Rambo: First Blood Part II 3 14.29% 
Hope and Glory 3 14.29% 
Rambo 3 14.29% 

Bombardier 2 9.52% 
Soldier of Orange 2 9.52% 
Au Revoir Les Enfants 2 9.52% 
Rambo III 2 9.52% 
Ride with the Devil 2 9.52% 
Black Book "Zwartboek" 2 9.52% 
The Wind That Shakes the Barley 2 9.52% 
Waltz with Bashir 2 9.52% 

Napoleon 1 4.76% 
Waterloo Bridge 1 4.76% 
Action in the North Atlantic 1 4.76% 
Air Force 1 4.76% 
God Is My Co-Pilot 1 4.76% 
The Steel Helmet 1 4.76% 
Men in War 1 4.76% 
Waterloo 1 4.76% 
The Odd Angry Shot 1 4.76% 
Testament 1 4.76% 
Utu 1 4.76% 
An Ungentlemanly Act 1 4.76% 
Heaven & Earth 1 4.76% 
Tank Girl 1 4.76% 
Underground 1 4.76% 
The Truman Show 1 4.76% 
Thirteen Days 1 4.76% 

```

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 21

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/33 "2015-06-15T07:23:12Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
>
> That actually made the 80s poll. I nominated it. It’s only got two votes so far. Get to the Delorean and head to the 80s poll.

Link it and I will

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/34 "2015-06-15T12:01:44Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
>
> Link it and I will

> **[Your favorite/best War Movies From the 1980s](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=758243)**
>
> ===================================================== For background check these threads: Best All-Time Military Movies – Pre-Poll Data Gathering 05-25-2015, 07:38 PM Your favorite/best War Movies Prior to 1940 05-27-2015, 10:18 PM Your...

From the links in the OP. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/35 "2015-06-15T17:12:14Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
>
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=758243](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=758243)
> 
> From the links in the OP. 🙂

3 now

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/36 "2015-06-18T03:28:25Z")

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New totals:

View Poll Results: Your favorite/best War Movies – OVERFLOW – Vote for up to TEN  
This poll will close on 07-10-2015 at 07:50 PM

```auto

Twelve O'Clock High 13 52.00% 
First Blood aka "Rambo" 5 20.00% 
Yankee Doodle Dandy 4 16.00% 
Story of G.I. Joe 3 12.00% 
Rambo: First Blood Part II 3 12.00% 
Hope and Glory 3 12.00% 
Ride with the Devil 3 12.00% 
Rambo 3 12.00% 

Bombardier 2 8.00% 
Soldier of Orange 2 8.00% 
Testament 2 8.00% 
Au Revoir Les Enfants 2 8.00% 
Rambo III 2 8.00% 
Heaven & Earth 2 8.00% 
Underground 2 8.00% 
Thirteen Days 2 8.00% 
Black Book "Zwartboek" 2 8.00% 
The Wind That Shakes the Barley 2 8.00% 
Waltz with Bashir 2 8.00% 

Napoleon 1 4.00% 
Waterloo Bridge 1 4.00% 
Action in the North Atlantic 1 4.00% 
Air Force 1 4.00% 
God Is My Co-Pilot 1 4.00% 
The Steel Helmet 1 4.00% 
Men in War 1 4.00% 
Waterloo 1 4.00% 
The Odd Angry Shot 1 4.00% 
Utu 1 4.00% 
An Ungentlemanly Act 1 4.00% 
Tank Girl 1 4.00% 
The Truman Show 1 4.00% 

```

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 25

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/37 "2015-06-19T19:03:33Z")

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Another sorted update of the non-zero votes:

View Poll Results: Your favorite/best War Movies – OVERFLOW – Vote for up to TEN  
This poll will close on 07-10-2015 at 07:50 PM

```auto

Twelve O'Clock High 13 50.00% 
First Blood aka "Rambo" 5 19.23% 
Yankee Doodle Dandy 4 15.38% 
Hope and Glory 4 15.38% 
Story of G.I. Joe 3 11.54% 
Rambo: First Blood Part II 3 11.54% 
Ride with the Devil 3 11.54% 
Rambo 3 11.54% 

Bombardier 2 7.69% 
Waterloo 2 7.69% 
Soldier of Orange 2 7.69% 
Testament 2 7.69% 
Au Revoir Les Enfants 2 7.69% 
Rambo III 2 7.69% 
Heaven & Earth 2 7.69% 
Underground 2 7.69% 
Thirteen Days 2 7.69% 
Black Book "Zwartboek" 2 7.69% 
The Wind That Shakes the Barley 2 7.69% 
Waltz with Bashir 2 7.69% 

Napoleon 1 3.85% 
Waterloo Bridge 1 3.85% 
Action in the North Atlantic 1 3.85% 
Air Force 1 3.85% 
God Is My Co-Pilot 1 3.85% 
The Steel Helmet 1 3.85% 
Men in War 1 3.85% 
The Odd Angry Shot 1 3.85% 
Utu 1 3.85% 
An Ungentlemanly Act 1 3.85% 
Tank Girl 1 3.85% 
The Truman Show 1 3.85% 

```

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 26

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-all-time-military-movies-overflow-voting/722225/38 "2015-06-23T20:57:17Z")

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Another update:

View Poll Results: Your favorite/best War Movies – OVERFLOW – Vote for up to TEN  
This poll will close on 07-10-2015 at 07:50 PM

```auto

Twelve O'Clock High 15 53.57% 
First Blood aka "Rambo" 6 21.43% 
Hope and Glory 5 17.86% 
Yankee Doodle Dandy 4 14.29% 
Story of G.I. Joe 4 14.29% 
Ride with the Devil 4 14.29% 
Bombardier 3 10.71% 
Rambo: First Blood Part II 3 10.71% 
Heaven & Earth 3 10.71% 
Thirteen Days 3 10.71% 
Rambo 3 10.71% 

Napoleon 2 7.14% 
God Is My Co-Pilot 2 7.14% 
Waterloo 2 7.14% 
Soldier of Orange 2 7.14% 
Testament 2 7.14% 
Au Revoir Les Enfants 2 7.14% 
Rambo III 2 7.14% 
Underground 2 7.14% 
Black Book "Zwartboek" 2 7.14% 
The Wind That Shakes the Barley 2 7.14% 
Waltz with Bashir 2 7.14% 

Waterloo Bridge 1 3.57% 
Action in the North Atlantic 1 3.57% 
Air Force 1 3.57% 
The Steel Helmet 1 3.57% 
Men in War 1 3.57% 
The Odd Angry Shot 1 3.57% 
Utu 1 3.57% 
An Ungentlemanly Act 1 3.57% 
Tank Girl 1 3.57% 
The Truman Show 1 3.57% 

```

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 28

**Only the 10% and over group will move on to the Final Voting Phase.**

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