# Best modern gun combat in fictional film **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 13, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-modern-gun-combat-in-fictional-film/506255 "2009-08-13T04:41:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-modern-gun-combat-in-fictional-film/506255/21 "2009-08-14T15:12:59Z")
> [@ministryman](#): > > The Wild Bunch - “Bullet time” scene before there was such a thing. While the Peckinpah film is in my Top 10 of all time, “bullet time” was a special effect while what _The Wild Bunch_ used was traditional slow-motion (and _Bonnie and Clyde_ did it first two years earlier). ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-modern-gun-combat-in-fictional-film/506255/22 "2009-08-14T15:35:05Z")
Going totally from memory … but wasn’t the briefish firefight at the beginning of _Alien Nation_ somewhat realistic? ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-modern-gun-combat-in-fictional-film/506255/23 "2009-08-14T19:39:18Z")
_Open Range_ was quite good. It shows that it showed how many time you shoot and the bullet just misses. Also that you just need to walk right up to the bad guy and pull the trigger. ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-modern-gun-combat-in-fictional-film/506255/24 "2009-08-14T19:49:08Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > Going totally from memory … but wasn’t the briefish firefight at the beginning of _Alien Nation_ somewhat realistic? You mean the part where the gun shoots through an entire car?:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-modern-gun-combat-in-fictional-film/506255/25 "2009-08-14T22:47:01Z")
> [@Dante](#): > > You mean the part where the gun shoots through an entire car?:dubious: Get thee to the [Box O’ Truth](http://www.theboxotruth.com/). No, it’s not rigorously scientific, but I find the site interesting, and besides, “shooting stuff is fun.” [Brassfetcher.com](http://Brassfetcher.com) is another interesting site with lots of pictures of the author shooting large hunks of ballistic gelatin and examining the cavities. Cars are usually concealment, not cover, particularly if your opponent is using saboted shotgun slugs, as I remember the baddies using in “Alien Nation”. The engine block may be different, but shotgun slugs usually have the right of way over everything else on the car. Thanks also to the recommendations for “Open Range”. Youtube has the final gunfight on it (in three parts). I disagree with the guys shrugging off getting hit with .45 slugs as much as they do, but the scene was very entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-modern-gun-combat-in-fictional-film/506255/26 "2009-08-14T23:25:30Z")
I’d like to nominate—at the very least so it’ll be easier for me to remember to check this thread for updates :D—Rambo IV for an honorable mention, only for it’s attempt at showing the effects of a .50 BMG on a living target. Probably not for anything more than that, aside from the unflinching brutality and the lovely sound design. ---
**Author:** ![Mannish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mannish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mannish)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-modern-gun-combat-in-fictional-film/506255/27 "2009-08-14T23:50:19Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Way of the Gun. Hands down. Came in here to say this…it’s consistently lauded by gun experts as getting it 100% right in every scene. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-modern-gun-combat-in-fictional-film/506255.md?page=1)