# Best Pixar film **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 6, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148 "2010-06-06T05:55:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/21 "2010-06-06T17:39:33Z")
Finding Nemo is the best film Pixar has made. It’s beautiful, has very believable characters (despite them being fish), and is the most emotionally moving of all their films. Toy Story 1 and 2 come close though–both are also fantastic, and I can’t wait for Toy Story 3. On the other hand, I thought Cars was garbage, Bugs Life was inoffensive but dull, and Wall-E was half of a great movie. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/22 "2010-06-06T17:54:19Z")
_The Incredibles_ is not just a great animation movie, it’s also a great superhero movie, a great spy thriller movie, and a great family movie. There’s just so much right about it. _Wall-E_ was also excellent, but it takes second place for me. I guess I just like action movies better than love stories. And I guess I need to see _Finding Nemo_. The trailers for it all seem underwhelming, but then, that seems to happen a lot with Pixar movies. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/23 "2010-06-06T18:04:32Z")
The Incredibles and the original Toy Story are the best for me. Wall-E is not holding up as well as I thought it would. It got super slapstickly towards the end. I’m not as revved on UP as some other people are. It was OK. Cars and Ratatouille were not that great. I think Ratatouille had some conceptual issues as well. Technically it was usual top notch job but the story and characterizations were not all that great and the core concept of a rat preparing food for human consumption was (IMO) not a wise story choice. ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/24 "2010-06-06T19:28:08Z")
> [@choie](#): > > I haven’t seen … _Up_ … because I’m struggling w/depression as it is and suspect I’m too emotionally vulnerable for what is apparently quite a tear-jerker. The first act will rip your heart out and stomp on it, but after that it’s a lightweight, fun, feel-good movie with an uplifting happy ending. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/25 "2010-06-06T19:40:17Z")
Wow. I thought Toy Story 2 was going to take this easily, though I do like the Incredibles. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/26 "2010-06-06T19:55:11Z")
I’m surprised _The Incredibles_ did so well. I’d rank it #8 overall (ahead of only _Up_ and _Ratatouille_). ---
**Author:** ![Wakinyan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wakinyan/32/352_2.png) [@Wakinyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wakinyan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/27 "2010-06-06T20:08:39Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m surprised _The Incredibles_ did so well. Me too. It’d be near the bottom of my list. I go for **Finding Nemo**. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/28 "2010-06-06T20:37:49Z")
I’ve seen every single one and I voted for Toy Story 2. I like them all, the Rat and Cars are at the bottom of a very good list. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/29 "2010-06-06T20:38:27Z")
I voted for Toy Story with Finding Nemo a close second because of Helen D. I am really surprised by the Incredibles vote. I’ve watched it a couple of times and must have missed something somewhere. It wasn’t even on my radar. What is it that people like? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/30 "2010-06-06T21:19:50Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > What is it that people like? > [@choie](#): > > _The Incredibles_ had everything: absolutely stunning visuals and pseudo-retro design ethic; touching character moments with likeable but flawed personalities; clever wit; intriguing issues (such as the debate whether to hide one’s light under a bushel for the sake of ‘normality’, Bob’s hiding facts from Helen vs. Helen’s hiding facts from the kids, and Bob’s ego inadvertently causing his nemesis’s evolution); an inventive and amazingly detailed fictional universe; brilliant voice acting and characterization across the board (with Holly Hunter being my favorite, but Craig T. Nelson and Jason Lee are right up there with her); music that totally kicked _ass_; and a script that seamlessly took us through action/adventure to family drama to romance to political/social satire without ever missing a beat. I think **choie** puts it perfectly. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/31 "2010-06-06T21:20:46Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > **WALL-B** > [@Tangent](#): > > Prequel? Nah, it’s [the Australian version.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallaby) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/32 "2010-06-06T22:35:10Z")
I’m with **choie** on _The Incredibles_. Plus, I heart Holly Hunter (_blush_). ---
**Author:** ![alfonzos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alfonzos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alfonzos)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/33 "2010-06-06T22:52:02Z")
I enjoyed _The Incredibles_ from stem to stern. As my sister said while leaving the theater, “I wished it was longer.” To quote a character from the movie, “The Dash likes.” ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/34 "2010-06-07T00:04:13Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > _The Incredibles_ is not just a great animation movie, it’s also a great superhero movie, a great spy thriller movie, and a great family movie. There’s just so much right about it. In fact, when it came out I labelled it the best Bond movie in decades. There is just not one misstep in the film from the design, music, characterization, plot, and especially the humor. (No capes!) Sarah Vowell, who voices Violet, was a phenomenal choice, as was Holly Hunter for Elastigirl, and Samuel L. Jackson for Frozone. (“Honey, where is my super suit!”) I’ll quote this movie with my (adult) coworkers and get a response every time. And there are probably only half a dozen other posters who would notice this, but Syndrome’s rocket that delivers the Omnidroid appears to have been modeled after the A10 lower stage of the proposed WWII German ICBM; in general, their use of retro themes (the cars, the Googie-esque architecture, the Ken Adam-inspired design for the island’s interiors, et cetera) evoked the Golden Age of spy/adventure movies in everything from Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers to the Connery Bond movies, while the thematic depth (of adventure and excitement versus adult responsibilities and obligations) made it a film that could genuinely interest adults, while the level of action never allowed it to become bogged down. **WALL-E** is a reasonably close second in my book; the first thirty minutes were phenomenal, although the ending is a bit trite. **Toy Story** was great (never saw the second one) as well as **Monsters, Inc.** , but I found **Finding Nemo** to be indifferent, and **Up** to be a bit repetitious and was obviously pandering to the children in the audience at the expense of thematic depth. I had high expectations for **Ratatouille** and while it didn’t quite meet them it was a superior effort. I long for another story that matches **The Incredibles** , but overall, Pixar has a reputation for consistently providing good and intelligent entertainment. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/35 "2010-06-07T00:06:48Z")
Wow, really? I’m surprised so many people think the Incredibles was the best. I found it instantly forgettable and about the only thing I remember is that it was a pretty blatant ripoff of the Fantastic Four. But, I don’t think it was the weakest. Ratatouille was devoid of sympathetic or interesting characters. My favorite is Wall\*E. To this day, I’m still shocked at the guts necessary to make a major motion picture where the main character doesn’t speak, but acts out his dialogue like Charlie Chaplin. In fact, they picked a main character that was so physically limited it seems improbable that they could even pull it off. To me, that they could make such a simple character so emphatic is a minor miracle. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/36 "2010-06-07T00:10:51Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > …with Finding Nemo a close second because of Helen D. I think you mean _Ellen_ D. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/37 "2010-06-07T00:11:02Z")
Pixar has had a great run of original stuff. I’m a bit disappointed that they are falling back on their old stuff and doing sequels. Toy Story 3 this summer. Cars 2 summer of 2011. Monsters Inc. 2 winter of 2012. At least they are working on a new original called Brave for summer of 2012. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/38 "2010-06-07T00:16:47Z")
> [@Superhal](#): > > Wow, really? I’m surprised so many people think the Incredibles was the best. I found it instantly forgettable and about the only thing I remember is that it was a pretty blatant ripoff of the Fantastic Four. In the story-writing business we call that “homage”, unless you’re clearly trying not to associate your character with its inspiration while at the same time aping every ability and tic they exhibit. You may as well say that _WALL-E_ is a ripoff of “Number 5” from _Short Curcuit_ (which it clearly mimics). Stranger ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/39 "2010-06-07T00:26:53Z")
The Incredibles wasn’t just a great animated film, it was a very very good movie just in general. Toy Story 2 was very moving in places and I thought about voting for it, but then I realized that unless my kids wanted to watch it, I wouldn’t re-watch Toy Story 2, but I would watch the Incredibles for my own enjoyment. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/40 "2010-06-07T02:12:20Z")
I voted for Toy Story because I watch it nearly every day with my kid and it doesn’t get on my nerves. They came out of the box with TS so strongly. I didn’t like the Incredibles that much. I even tried watching it today and yesterday and it just didn’t pull me in. I didn’t like Up all that much either. Neither were bad, but except for Toy Story 2, I LOVE LOVE LOVE all the other Pixar movies. There might be something to them being PG13 too that makes me like them less. The Jack Jack babysitter short is one of my favorites. I really enjoy the shorts, although when I watch them all together, I start to get annoyed after a while by the Mater ones. I HATED TS2 when it came out. Now I’ve seen it a few more times and I don’t hate it anymore. Some parts of it are really good. Maybe someday Up and The Incredibles will click for me too. A Bug’s Life attraction was one of my favorite parts of Disney World. I am so excited for TS3. I have been stuffing myself with Kellogg’s cereal for weeks so I can save up the codes to get the prizes on the boxes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148.md?page=3)